View Full Version : Sc viper price- what would you pay?
V10powerr
12-24-2014, 05:33 PM
So if there ends up being a supercharged viper next year, what would you pay, within reason, for it?
My number is 100k for a base srt.
BlknBlu
12-24-2014, 05:59 PM
if you use the Hellcat math, I would say closer to the 150k mark depending on the HP numbers.
Bruce
kdaviper
12-24-2014, 06:03 PM
if you use the Hellcat math, I would say closer to the 150k mark depending on the HP numbers.
Bruce
Hellcat math? is this a new type of calculus?
Coloviper
12-24-2014, 06:14 PM
Price will equal voucher!
Track Pack
12-24-2014, 10:21 PM
My guess/estimate would be a $30k-40k premium from the base car.
IndyRon
12-24-2014, 10:30 PM
I'd be a player at 100k. I don't care about much of the upgrades other than 2 piece rotors, lightweight wheels, and exterior color.
My guess/estimate would be a $30k-40k premium from the base car.
I agree
slitherv10
12-24-2014, 11:49 PM
If its going to be in the ACR, then I would say 50K over SRT for sure. If its just an upgrade package I would say 30K. That equating to 84,995+30 base SRT supercharged or 134,995 total for ACR. I don't believe the ACR will be supercharged if Chrysler keeps this car as a track car. That being said, what will they do to up its game if the SRT series Vipers get SC'd? Can't have the SRT with more HP than an ACR. Track car or not. It wouldn't make sense.
johniew398
12-25-2014, 12:05 AM
Don't care so much about the SC unless it is in a package looking like the GT3-R.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/johniew398/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/johniew398/media/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg.html)
HANKFAN
12-25-2014, 12:21 AM
I would pay 110K for a base SRT with a supercharger. Patiently waiting for SRT to bring this to market. If SRT doesn't I am hoping the aftermarket will bring fourth a supercharger kit soon. This is the only thing that is keeping me from purchasing a Gen V.
05Commemorative
12-25-2014, 01:24 AM
It would make no sense to put an SC on your dedicated track version of the car. Be in the same position as the C7 Z06 going through now.
Me personally, zero interest in adding the weight of the SC and the extra cooling needed to make it work, but I guess for the straight line street crowd, it would be worth it. Seems like a GTS option if anything. I just don't see it happening.
If its going to be in the ACR, then I would say 50K over SRT for sure. If its just an upgrade package I would say 30K. That equating to 84,995+30 base SRT supercharged or 134,995 total for ACR. I don't believe the ACR will be supercharged if Chrysler keeps this car as a track car. That being said, what will they do to up its game if the SRT series Vipers get SC'd? Can't have the SRT with more HP than an ACR. Track car or not. It wouldn't make sense.
Viktimize
12-25-2014, 02:42 AM
Don't care so much about the SC unless it is in a package looking like the GT3-R.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/johniew398/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/johniew398/media/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg.html)
If somebody could at least make a replica front bumper of this I'd have a bigger hard on than a priest in an all boys elementary school.
plumcrazy
12-25-2014, 06:49 AM
100K and i might be back in a viper
with the new ford gt coming I don't think a sc viper will keep my attention
2snakes
12-25-2014, 08:55 AM
Would pay 100K for a base car.. The blower should cost less than 10K
Canadian venom
12-25-2014, 09:02 AM
Would pay 100K for a base car.. The blower should cost less than 10K
This
Space Truckin
12-25-2014, 09:11 AM
^^^what he said^^^X2.... blowers are usually about $6-8k. Where are the 150k numbers coming from??? Dodge has already proven that will not work for the Viper period :p0257:
CERVEZA
12-25-2014, 10:02 AM
Just want to see it come to a reality!!!! Such a wonderful thought....
XSnake
12-25-2014, 10:05 AM
Zero interest in FI version
J TNT
12-25-2014, 10:37 AM
As a factory option that is Engineered , I would pay 20k to 25k for the option . That is factoring in the R & D , and hopefully new technology .
V10powerr
12-25-2014, 11:35 AM
So from the feedback so far
Wishful thinkers like me say 100k which I think would really move sales
Realists say 110-115
Others say 130k plus
I think that a 15-20 k premium from the 85k base for a sc is decent enough for dodge to invest in as well as decent enough to move cars
Just my thoughts so far
Murpowa
12-25-2014, 12:18 PM
Honestly, I rather see the aftermarket purse any and all FI options and Dodge to squeeze more performance out of the NA V10
Policy Limits
12-25-2014, 01:41 PM
My hellsnake will be 120-15k certificate = 105k. :)
BlknBlu
12-25-2014, 02:49 PM
There will be more to the car than just throwing a supercharger on the exisiting platform and added HP. Frame will need strengthening, better brakes, clearance under the hood and upgraded tranny. will have to pay to play.
Bruce
Viktimize
12-25-2014, 03:43 PM
If you use the Hellcat for reference, all the same sort of upgrades would need to be done to that over the base SRT. And the price increase is about 15k over a regular SRT. Might be a Viper tax if they do a S/C on it, so 20k upcharge?
Shooter
12-25-2014, 05:29 PM
Zero interest in FI version
This. So to answer the question asked by the op. $0
Boba Fett
12-25-2014, 05:43 PM
It would make no sense to put an SC on your dedicated track version of the car. Be in the same position as the C7 Z06 going through now.
Me personally, zero interest in adding the weight of the SC and the extra cooling needed to make it work, but I guess for the straight line street crowd, it would be worth it. Seems like a GTS option if anything. I just don't see it happening.
Agree completely
HANKFAN
12-25-2014, 06:25 PM
If you use the Hellcat for reference, all the same sort of upgrades would need to be done to that over the base SRT. And the price increase is about 15k over a regular SRT. Might be a Viper tax if they do a S/C on it, so 20k upcharge?
20K upcharge for a factory installed supercharger would be a bargain on a Gen V. I am sure SRT would still offer the N/A version to keep all the track guys happy. By having a forced induction and a N/A version it would make the Gen V appeal to a larger group of potential buyers.
mnc2886
12-25-2014, 06:32 PM
Rather than a supercharger, I'd rather them find another 100 to 150 lbs to shave off, add 55 HP to claim the magical 700HP mostly for marketing, and invest further R&D into aero, suspension, brakes, and tires (Trofeo R's).
The Viper doesn't need 800 HP. As little as it weighs, for a company to develop a car like that, millions would have to be spent on electronics to keep the average joe from dieing. Either the car has to weigh a lot to be built with that kind of power (Aventador, Hellcat) or it is in a league of million dollar cars. We have to be realistic. Might be cool, but won't happen.
I doubt there is a single person on this forum, who actually likes the Viper (as opposed to it's not good enough no matter what), that would be underwhelmed by a 3100 lb car with 700 HP and improved noticeably in the areas that the Viper has already dominated in.
I saw many posts, since reveal of the Gen V and even somewhat recent, where people had stated how awful it was that the new Viper didn't come out with a 750 HP monster and how lame the HP jump was from a Gen IV. Honestly, I never understood that. Gen I to II was a 50 HP jump, II to III was a 55 HP jump (or 60 if you count the re-rate). Yes the III to IV was a 90 HP jump, but we are now at 600 HP. No one could honestly think we'd make another monster jump starting from 600 HP.
My message to SRT, don't go FI, it didn't work for the new Z06 in my opinion so don't repeat other's mistakes. Keep refining what you have because the Viper is the best bang for the buck performance car on the market with an exotic appeal 3-4 times it's price.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Policy Limits
12-25-2014, 07:22 PM
It won't have boost. It will have natural aspiration better brakes and 1200 lbs of down force. And different paint scheme. They've hopefully learned their lesson in charging a Maserati price for a Dodge.
plumcrazy
12-25-2014, 08:08 PM
how about just giving access to tune completely ?
Viktimize
12-25-2014, 08:50 PM
20K upcharge for a factory installed supercharger would be a bargain on a Gen V. I am sure SRT would still offer the N/A version to keep all the track guys happy. By having a forced induction and a N/A version it would make the Gen V appeal to a larger group of potential buyers.
Without a doubt the N/A will always be offered, unless of course they come up with some technology that prevents heatsoak all together. The car in it's current form is practically the perfect track car, and being a track car is what they engineer it for. But I know there is no shortage of guys out there who don't ever track the car, and would love to have another 200hp for ripping from red light to red light.
IndyRon
12-25-2014, 09:05 PM
Rather than a supercharger, I'd rather them find another 100 to 150 lbs to shave off, add 55 HP to claim the magical 700HP mostly for marketing, and invest further R&D into aero, suspension, brakes, and tires (Trofeo R's).
The Viper doesn't need 800 HP. As little as it weighs, for a company to develop a car like that, millions would have to be spent on electronics to keep the average joe from dieing. Either the car has to weigh a lot to be built with that kind of power (Aventador, Hellcat) or it is in a league of million dollar cars. We have to be realistic. Might be cool, but won't happen.
I doubt there is a single person on this forum, who actually likes the Viper (as opposed to it's not good enough no matter what), that would be underwhelmed by a 3100 lb car with 700 HP and improved noticeably in the areas that the Viper has already dominated in.
I saw many posts, since reveal of the Gen V and even somewhat recent, where people had stated how awful it was that the new Viper didn't come out with a 750 HP monster and how lame the HP jump was from a Gen IV. Honestly, I never understood that. Gen I to II was a 50 HP jump, II to III was a 55 HP jump (or 60 if you count the re-rate). Yes the III to IV was a 90 HP jump, but we are now at 600 HP. No one could honestly think we'd make another monster jump starting from 600 HP.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Not to split hairs, but Gen 3 to 4 was a 95 or 100hp jump depending on what info you believe. In all honesty, I think that it would cost Chrysler 3-5 times the R&D to do what you suggest vs. tweaking the car to make a supercharged version a reality. Another 55hp that is emissions compliant would require better heads and more RPM, meaning lighter rotating assembly, more complex cam phasing (most likely), and a redesigned intake tract and manifold to support 7k rpm. That's just the engine side, then you have to find parts that you can swap out for carbon fiber, magnesium, aluminum, or titanium to save the weight. The cost would be huge. I think it would be a cool car if it happened, but just not cost effective. The R&D for a SC motor would be a relative bargain in comparison since the complete longblock is already set up for moderate boost levels without requiring more RPM, just some chassis and drivetrain reinforcement.
GTSnake
12-25-2014, 10:40 PM
with the new ford gt coming I don't think a sc viper will keep my attention
Once you see the price of the new FGT you may change your mind back.
I doubt there is a single person on this forum, who actually likes the Viper (as opposed to it's not good enough no matter what), that would be underwhelmed by a 3100 lb car with 700 HP and improved noticeably in the areas that the Viper has already dominated in.
Unfortunately, 3100lbs will never happen without a complete chassis redesign. It took McLaren tens of millions to design and fabricate a carbon fiber tub for the 12C/650S and a tiny, lightweight 3800 V8tt to get to 3100lbs. As far as steel frame cars go, the Viper is at it's lightest, less maybe 50lbs in CCB's and a little more carbon fiber bits.
Voice of Reason
12-25-2014, 11:00 PM
Is there any possibility with the current engine for a redesigned crankshaft configuration? And would a different design allow for more power? Ford's flat plane crank is interesting on the GT350, but it will be interesting to see how vibration free the engine is. I don't think a flat plane is even possible on a V10, but is their something better would could do than our current strange firing pattern?
Policy Limits
12-26-2014, 07:54 AM
Yeah bet the FGT is over 200. So much competition for all brands at all price points right now.
Nine Ball
12-26-2014, 08:18 AM
A Paxton supercharger kit is about $9500, plus about $1800 install at most shops. I could see this being a $13000-15000 dealership upgrade, realistically. They shouldn't price gouge it, if they want to sell it.
Fatboy 18
12-26-2014, 08:51 AM
Don't care so much about the SC unless it is in a package looking like the GT3-R.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/johniew398/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/johniew398/media/Miscellaneous/GT3-Main_zps467d6544.jpg.html)
Having seen that car up close, its looks absolutely stunning. Please make this a road car.
Shooter
12-26-2014, 09:08 AM
Having seen that car up close, its looks absolutely stunning. Please make this a road car.
If they built a road version would you buy it.?
Fatboy 18
12-26-2014, 09:15 AM
If I Could afford it yes, but there would be added issues for people this side of the pond, I would want manufactures guarantees honored, so god forbid there were any engine issues I would not have to worry. Sound fair to you? Tax issues would also be something i would have to consider.
genVer
12-26-2014, 10:11 AM
If they built a road version would you buy it.?
I would definitely be in if they produced a road car version of the GT3-R in the same price ballpark as the current Gen V road cars. Obviously I love the paint scheme of the Le Mans car but just look at those awesome proportions... :drool:
http://www.autoblog.gr/wp-content/gallery/srt-viper-american-le-mans-series-race-car/srt-viper-gts-r-2013-2.jpg
http://www.autoblog.gr/wp-content/gallery/srt-viper-american-le-mans-series-race-car/srt-viper-gts-r-2013-3.jpg
ACRucrazy
12-26-2014, 03:01 PM
If they built a road version would you buy it.?
That car NA? Id give my ACR and left nut for.
(saving the right for backup)
Shooter
12-26-2014, 03:10 PM
If I Could afford it yes, but there would be added issues for people this side of the pond, I would want manufactures guarantees honored, so god forbid there were any engine issues I would not have to worry. Sound fair to you? Tax issues would also be something i would have to consider.
No worries. I just see a lot of people saying "build this", or "it needs this". Then, when Dodge (SRT) builds it, they don't step up and buy one. We saw this with the new car. It's priced pretty well now, yet I still see lots of "waffling".
Fatboy 18
12-26-2014, 04:01 PM
No worries. I just see a lot of people saying "build this", or "it needs this". Then, when Dodge (SRT) builds it, they don't step up and buy one. We saw this with the new car. It's priced pretty well now, yet I still see lots of "waffling".Fully understand you on that one ;) Happy Boxing Day :)
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