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    Arrow Heads and cam thread for Woodhouse Motorsports

    Well I wanted to start a thread for our shop since after all the delays in the cam production we should be ramping up very soon I'm assured. This package has been very well received as others have proven and here at Woodhouse it is no different. We will be documenting the first one as soon as the cams are boxed up. Arrow only has 30 sets of big valve heads staged for the packages and we have ordered 6 to get us started (all 13/14 customers, new ACR cars also when they start arriving). Arrow has promised to keep the turn around fast for heads and the PCM calibrations because of the cars we have lined up, can't wait to get started and hope to have something to post very soon.

    If you have any questions that come up please feel free to contact me anytime

    You can also follow along with other projects that go through the shop on our FB page

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodh...n/167968157736

    Thanks!

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    Excellent ! I'll be in touch to put my GTC on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Well I wanted to start a thread for our shop since after all the delays in the cam production we should be ramping up very soon I'm assured. This package has been very well received as others have proven and here at Woodhouse it is no different. We will be documenting the first one as soon as the cams are boxed up. Arrow only has 30 sets of big valve heads staged for the packages and we have ordered 6 to get us started (all 13/14 customers, new ACR cars also when they start arriving). Arrow has promised to keep the turn around fast for heads and the PCM calibrations because of the cars we have lined up, can't wait to get started and hope to have something to post very soon.


    If you have any questions that come up please feel free to contact me anytime


    You can also follow along with other projects that go through the shop on our FB page

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodh...n/167968157736

    Thanks!
    Mark,
    How much for the package? Any core charges and how long till order shipped?
    Does have to be done by a Dodge dealer?
    Thanks!!!!
    Jerry,

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamOrangeCrush View Post
    Mark,
    How much for the package? Any core charges and how long till order shipped?
    Does have to be done by a Dodge dealer?
    Thanks!!!!
    Jerry,
    Hi Jerry,

    The parts for the package are $10,991, that price is set for all 3 dealers, if it is an over the counter sale there will be a $2000 core charge for the stock parts. Arrow has not given me an exact number for this on a already driven vehicle, but when we do new Vipers they get all the take off parts back. So if you buy the kit and keep all the stock parts there could be anywhere from $2K -$3k in core charges.

    Timeline? Parts have been delayed many times because of the cam core supplier so I have stopped dumping gas on myself lol, I hope the kits are ready to ship soon, lots of cars and people in line and they have been for a long time now.

    You can install the kit on your own or have your Tech do it, but there is no implied warranty on anything unless it is installed at 1 of the 3 Arrow authorized dealers like Woodhouse, then you will get a 12/12 warranty.

    Thanks,

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    Mark, has arrow mentioned if they are going to release the gen iv package this year?

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    Arrow has bought their own development car and are working on it, I do not get the impression it will be released before the end of this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redx View Post
    Mark, has arrow mentioned if they are going to release the gen iv package this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Arrow has bought their own development car and are working on it, I do not get the impression it will be released before the end of this year.
    ...

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    I hope they release the blower soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius View Post
    I hope they release the blower soon.
    I wish I could justify having two ACRs...one with a blower and softer springs for the street..and one for the track. Damn, an ACR extreme with a blower would be the definition of a street terror.

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    Update, according to Arrow the cam cores have not even been shipped from the supplier to the grinders (maybe by the end of the month...) so we are at least 3 weeks out still for the production cams. :-(

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    What RWHP/TQ are you seeing on stock 2015's on your dyno and what are the projections with the heads/cam/PCM/header/exhaust? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnkn View Post
    What RWHP/TQ are you seeing on stock 2015's on your dyno and what are the projections with the heads/cam/PCM/header/exhaust? thanks
    Hi John, the Mustang 2 roller dyno we use has put most of the 30+ baselines at 520-525rwhp on late 14' cars. In the early days of the GenV we were at around 500 because the tune was richening up so much over 4400 rpm, the new cars and the reflashed early cars are pretty consistent in the about 520 range though which seems low, but this dyno has always been a heartbreaker lol, but consistent before and after numbers over the 8 years we have been going there.

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    Thank you, Based on those numbers any expectations on new heads/cam/PCM/headers/exhaust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnkn View Post
    Thank you, Based on those numbers any expectations on new heads/cam/PCM/headers/exhaust?
    Well since the bolt on cars average 560 the H/C should be around 610-615 I hope, but will have to see.

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    Thank you Sir...

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    Heads and cam update, Arrow has and is installing the first production camshaft in their test engine to run on the dyno. If all goes well in the next day or two the cam grinders will be working overtime churning out cams! Woodhouse Motorsports has 5 of the first batch incoming and will be scheduling in cars as soon as it is verified we will be getting products to install, we also have many new ACR and GTC cars lined up for the long awaited arrow Racing heads and cam package! Stay tuned here for more info coming soon ;-)

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    Another update, after running the first production cam in the test engine on the dyno Arrow wanted to make a very small change in tolerances to insure the best valve train performance on the production cams. The timeline for shipping is looking like 1.5 - 2 weeks from yesterday. We have cars waiting and I know my customers are weary from the delays, but it will be so worth it when we start working! Hang in there ;-)

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    Mark, where are pics of the ACR you guys got in!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Mark, where are pics of the ACR you guys got in!!
    They forgot the aero kit... But with the heads, cam and Belangers we may want to add it LOL. The ACR comment was all my confusion so I own it as a misspeak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    They forgot the aero kit... But with the heads, cam and Belangers we may want to add it LOL. The ACR comment was all my confusion so I own it as a misspeak...

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    LOL! Nice looking car though

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    Thanks for the pic Mark. That beauty is my 2016 "almost Stryker Red " 2016 GTC with the TA 1.0 Option . It's waiting for the H & C install @ Woodhouse, then will be heading for Idaho. Bill was a huge help with picking the color. I have heard it is a very very close match to Stryker Red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMorZR1 View Post
    Thanks for the pic Mark. That beauty is my 2016 "almost Stryker Red " 2016 GTC with the TA 1.0 Option . It's waiting for the H & C install @ Woodhouse, then will be heading for Idaho. Bill was a huge help with picking the color. I have heard it is a very very close match to Stryker Red.
    Package should ship tomorrow, will take the car to dyno for baseline in the morning ;-)

    Arrow will be offering their carbon coil covers also as an upgrade if anyone is interested, will have the Arrow racing logo on them along with the Stage II designation and then WMD 740 if you like with or without.

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    That's a great package Mark ! What is the new Redline with the Stage 2 package ?
    Thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by J TNT View Post
    That's a great package Mark ! What is the new Redline with the Stage 2 package ?
    Thanks !
    Redline is 6700 rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Package should ship tomorrow, will take the car to dyno for baseline in the morning ;-)

    Arrow will be offering their carbon coil covers also as an upgrade if anyone is interested, will have the Arrow racing logo on them along with the Stage II designation and then WMD 740 if you like with or without.
    Any pics of these Mark?


 
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