How many TT Gen V's out there now?

[rlhay2]

I'll let Ed give it to you. I don't give out personal info on the net.

And "The Shell Game" continues...

You stated:

If anyone doesn't think he's being truthful. Feel free to stop by for a ride.

Which I was glad to accept. Yet now, you rescind your offer.

This is not the best way to sustain a small business in a tightly networked community.

[XSnake]

I'll let Ed give it to you. I don't give out personal info on the net.

Bobby, I can swing by at some point next week. I already know the way.

[City]

Ed,

You're right on the edge here regarding marketing products on the forum without being a site sponsor, despite your crafty claims to the contrary within this thread. I'd suggest you cease making references to your "shop".

Additionally, I've pulled your signature advertisement which is not allowed unless you're a VOA member.

[Steve M]

I'm just glad someone figured this out with a stock PCM - HPTuners is only as good as the end user, which can be both a good and bad thing.

[EdwardETraylorIII]

rlhay,

No shell game whatsoever. I am not a sponsor here - and it would be in poor taste to mention our Shop Name! We will formally be releasing the details with HPT Tuners very soon. Honestly, the intention of this thread was to see if anyone else has figured this out (because I've been disconnected from the Viper forums for a while). As you can see from a few regular's posts - We are pretty well known and have a good reputation if you are local.

For now, a very limited group has gotten to ride in the car and see the work we have done.

We had a few free minutes last night so we threw the car up on the rollers (since there is some question/argument about some imaginary 6 PSI threshold. Granted, I did discover and disclose that this threshold did exist about a year when I ran into it and have since learned how to work around it with HPT). Perhaps this rumor that you're perpetuating is based on my findings from a year ago? If you could quote your source on this limit, that'd be great.

This is a 9-10 PSI pull:



Honestly, we have resolution beyond 18 PSI, but I was nervous when it hit 18 PSI (on a stock motor - when a wastegate line developed a leak)... So I can't tell you that I've safely tested beyond that level but I can tell you that if you have that itch, it's definitely scratchable (on E85). I typically drive the car on the streets at 9-10 PSI (this varies slightly with the hot South Florida weather) because the car is very fun (read: faster than the word of God) and drivable at this power level. When it's cranked up to 15 PSI it always manages to aim right at a median or ditch and lunge for it!!!

[EdwardETraylorIII]

City,

I just can't win with you. Go ahead and delete the thread. I wasn't being "Crafty" at all! I won't post any more, ask any further questions or help any one any further.

[ViperSmith]

I don't understand the secrecy around any of this.

[XSnake]

City,

I just can't win with you. Go ahead and delete the thread. I wasn't being "Crafty" at all! I won't post any more, ask any further questions or help any one any further.

It's pretty obvious why you created this thread. People aren't stupid and City nailed it. Don't play the victim.

[City]

City,

I just can't win with you. Go ahead and delete the thread. I wasn't being "Crafty" at all! I won't post any more, ask any further questions or help any one any further.

We've certainly had our run ins here since you are relatively inflexible with regard to your posting. Heck, you forced me to go 5 or 6 rounds with you JUST with your reluctance to adhere to the forum rules relating to avatars! I finally gave in just because it became clear that your "testing how far you could step over the line" might never end.

It should be obvious that my post was a warning rather than any threat to delete your thread, certainly as a result of what's already been posted. If you decide not to post anymore as a result of my warning, you should own up to that decision. That choice is yours to make.

None of the moderators here are looking to create difficulties. We're simply trying to keep all things mildly reasonable. And yes, we DO have some obligation to protect our site sponsors who not only help fund this site (and my generous salary ) but are also extremely helpful to our viper community. It's certainly a delicate and difficult balance to maintain and I'll be the first to state that we do make improper choices at times, but said choices are never without serious consideration and never with malicious intent. Perhaps most importantly, we listen for criticism and stand ready to reverse poor decisions. We like to think of it as "flexibility". You might want to consider the same.

[DZnutz]

ED,

I just read through this thread. Regardless of what you have/have not built or tuned, your tone and comments come off as that of a sleazy, cocky dick. I know exactly how you would respond if someone paid you for something and felt they did not get what they had bargained for.

[Junkie]

I would just like to say my daily driver makes 3300whp on 87 octane, with a stock T5 trans and dead hooks on 20" street tires.





I have no proof, but I don't care about videos or dynos. But thats just how it is….

[pdv25]

I would just like to say my daily driver makes 3300whp on 87 octane, with a stock T5 trans and dead hooks on 20" street tires.






I have no proof, but I don't care about videos or dynos. But thats just how it is….

So that's why you're selling the TA! Sounds like a great daily.

[ViperSmith]

I would just like to say my daily driver makes 3300whp on 87 octane, with a stock T5 trans and dead hooks on 20" street tires.





I have no proof, but I don't care about videos or dynos. But thats just how it is….

[rlhay2]

I don't understand the secrecy around any of this.

My theory:

Whomever figures this out before Arrow releases their Supercharger ECU is likely to have the market cornered.
And it is already a rather small market compared to that of GM and Ford.

To date, I have yet to see any proof that the issues are resolved.
But I shall continue to hope that the current hurdles will soon be overcome.

Granted, I did discover and disclose that this threshold did exist about a year when I ran into it and have since learned how to work around it with HPT). Perhaps this rumor that you're perpetuating is based on my findings from a year ago? If you could quote your source on this limit, that'd be great.

Isn't this ironic. You are asking for full disclosure.

There are several shops across the USA awaiting HPTuners to release a solution to the 6psi threshold. To date, one still does not exist...yet.

[slovenom]

Top secrets are tearing this board apart!

[rlhay2]

I would just like to say my daily driver makes 3300whp on 87 octane, with a stock T5 trans and dead hooks on 20" street tires.

I have no proof, but I don't care about videos or dynos. But thats just how it is….

And weighs 2700lbs, rides like a Cadillac, has ice cold A/C, 56 speaker surround sound stereo, adaptive cruise control and gets 40mpg!!

I've ridden in the car but there are no photos.
And if requested, I will deny any chance for anyone else to see this amazing car.

[Voice of Reason]

And weighs 2700lbs, rides like a Cadillac, has ice cold A/C, 56 speaker surround sound stereo, adaptive cruise control and gets 40mpg!!

I've ridden in the car but there are no photos.
And if requested, I will deny any chance for anyone else to see this amazing car.

Contact me via PM, I'd like to send you $27k no strings attached to do this to my DD. TIA!

[ViperSmith]

My theory:

Whomever figures this out before Arrow releases their Supercharger ECU is likely to have the market cornered.
And it is already a rather small market compared to that of GM and Ford.

To date, I have yet to see any proof that the issues are resolved.
But I shall continue to hope that the current hurdles will soon be overcome.



Isn't this ironic. You are asking for full disclosure.

There are several shops across the USA awaiting HPTuners to release a solution to the 6psi threshold. To date, one still does not exist...yet.

If you've built cars in customers hands, then there is no reason to be secretive.

Ed may very well be doing it, and doing it well - but the secret squirrel angle just isn't appealing.

[Magnus]

If you've built cars in customers hands, then there is no reason to be secretive.

Ed may very well be doing it, and doing it well - but the secret squirrel angle just isn't appealing.

The Arrow route is just as secretive. I doubt they'll be releasing their tune to the public, or information on the tables needed to properly tune for boost.

It takes a lot of time to dial in a tune. Arrow has had years to work on it. We (HP Tuners) have only released the solution to the public 1-2 years ago.

The developers/engineers that create these products (Arrow, Ed, etc..) need to protect their R&D.

- Keith @ HP Tuners

[vegasgtr]

The Arrow route is just as secretive. I doubt they'll be releasing their tune to the public, or information on the tables needed to properly tune for boost.

It takes a lot of time to dial in a tune. Arrow has had years to work on it. We (HP Tuners) have only released the solution to the public 1-2 years ago.

The developers/engineers that create these products (Arrow, Ed, etc..) need to protect their R&D.

- Keith @ HP Tuners

Keith,
Looking to buy Hptuners for basic tune. Are you saying you guys have figured it out ( 6psi +) or still working on it?

[Steve M]

The Arrow route is just as secretive. I doubt they'll be releasing their tune to the public, or information on the tables needed to properly tune for boost.

It takes a lot of time to dial in a tune. Arrow has had years to work on it. We (HP Tuners) have only released the solution to the public 1-2 years ago.

The developers/engineers that create these products (Arrow, Ed, etc..) need to protect their R&D.

- Keith @ HP Tuners

Bingo...I've been fooling around with my otherwise stock car for the better part of the past 1.5 years, and only now am I starting to scratch the surface as to what does what, and that's for a car with 0 mods. And I still have more questions than answers.

[ViperSmith]

The Arrow route is just as secretive. I doubt they'll be releasing their tune to the public, or information on the tables needed to properly tune for boost.

It takes a lot of time to dial in a tune. Arrow has had years to work on it. We (HP Tuners) have only released the solution to the public 1-2 years ago.

The developers/engineers that create these products (Arrow, Ed, etc..) need to protect their R&D.

- Keith @ HP Tuners

No one is saying anyone should release their secret sauce. More, put up or shut up I think seems to be what people are saying.

[Disturbed]

Bobby, I can swing by at some point next week. I already know the way.

Just send Ed a PM for his address. He'd be happy to let you check it out.

[Malu59RT]

Ed,

People are just excited about being able to boost the car and not be forced to use a stand alone computer, in hopes this brings the cost of the TT kit to a more manageable price. I thought the two videos you posted were awesome, because it puts us in the driver's seat of a TT Viper, and I LOVE hearing those turbos spool.

rlhay2 is a good friend of mine (he's also on Dallas Racing, where we first talked), and is as serious as they come in building a TT 1000hp Viper, if you can use the stock computer. I will put up the $200 for you to be a site sponsor and advertise the kit here, so he can get all the info he needs, and I can get some TT Viper porn for my spank bank . Just let me know!

[rlhay2]

People are just excited about being able to boost the car and not be forced to use a stand alone computer, in hopes this brings the cost of the TT kit to a more manageable price.

And passing the Texas state emissions test without resorting to alternatives...