8 speed auto in a gen 5 viper

[I Bin Therbefor]

Any progress?

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Any progress?

Trans has been a challenge to get but my GM dealer said it should be here next week
Thought I was going to have to buy a new CTSV to get one there for a while
Thanks
Wayne

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

what would be the estimated price for the conversion? sounds awesome.

Still hoping to keep it around 10,000

[TooBlue]

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Wouldn't this also work in a Gen 4?

[vegasgtr]

Still hoping to keep it around 10,000

i assume aftermarket software to handle the shifting? motec?

[TCurtner]

Firm believer that one good reason to buy viper is manual trans. Paddles are for pussies!

So you feel justified in dissing all formula car drivers, and many extremely great cars (Ferrari, GTR, Gumpert, Lambo, McLaren...omg - this list goes on for a long stretch) by calling a paddle shift car driver a what? That's ridiculous.

Your opinion on this matter just became moot. I guarantee you that you have no idea what it means to drive on track and how important it is to cut times by hundredths, tenths and even seconds (a huge deal) - to see that the F1 trans is superior in function to a manual. I love my manual, but i'd always (and so would you) be faster with the F1 type trans. And faster does count in this world.



try this thread: http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...1-Transmission

oh, and did mention LEFT FOOT BRAKING????

[vegasgtr]

A viper with an auto would go low 10s. would be a fun car. I would buy a viper with an auto. I don't road race.More 1/4 Mile. a 150shot and an AUTO = 9.5s@145

[Shooter]

Hmmm. I'm thinking an X with this could be an even more formidable track weapon. Now i'm interested.

[SlateEd]

So you feel justified in dissing all formula car drivers, and many extremely great cars (Ferrari, GTR, Gumpert, Lambo, McLaren...omg - this list goes on for a long stretch) by calling a paddle shift car driver a what? That's ridiculous.

Your opinion on this matter just became moot. I guarantee you that you have no idea what it means to drive on track and how important it is to cut times by hundredths, tenths and even seconds (a huge deal) - to see that the F1 trans is superior in function to a manual. I love my manual, but i'd always (and so would you) be faster with the F1 type trans. And faster does count in this world.



try this thread: http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...1-Transmission

oh, and did mention LEFT FOOT BRAKING????

I totally agree with the way you approached the last post, which is an inappropriate oversimplification. but then you follow with your own (much more intelligently phrased) oversimplifications - The other cars you mentioned are not all" extremely great cars" and even the ones that could be called great are not great because of their flappy paddles. If you think an Aventador (for example) is "extremely great," you had better be looking at engine, fit and finish, design, technology in a ton of areas other than its transmission.

And as far as driving on track... This argument is getting really old. You might be (and I might be) faster with a true F1 style transmission. But take someone like ACR Steve and he's still going to be many seconds faster than both of us regardless of what transmission he's got in the car. When you say "faster does count in this world", which world are you talking about? The one in which only .02% of all Viper owners will ever drive? A real race car needs to keep up with F1 technology because it will be driving in "that world" where tenths matter. A street car doesn't need to do the same.

The OP has a cool business idea going here, interesting engineering project, etc. etc. and that's great for the Viper aftermarket... I'm curious to see where it goes .. just because. But if you want to cut real time off your laps it's seat time, not Xbox time.

[TCurtner]

I totally agree with the way you approached the last post, which is an inappropriate oversimplification. but then you follow with your own (much more intelligently phrased) oversimplifications - The other cars you mentioned are not all" extremely great cars" and even the ones that could be called great are not great because of their flappy paddles. If you think an Aventador (for example) is "extremely great," you had better be looking at engine, fit and finish, design, technology in a ton of areas other than its transmission.

And as far as driving on track... This argument is getting really old. You might be (and I might be) faster with a true F1 style transmission. But take someone like ACR Steve and he's still going to be many seconds faster than both of us regardless of what transmission he's got in the car. When you say "faster does count in this world", which world are you talking about? The one in which only .02% of all Viper owners will ever drive? A real race car needs to keep up with F1 technology because it will be driving in "that world" where tenths matter. A street car doesn't need to do the same.

The OP has a cool business idea going here, interesting engineering project, etc. etc. and that's great for the Viper aftermarket... I'm curious to see where it goes .. just because. But if you want to cut real time off your laps it's seat time, not Xbox time.

I think i mentioned some serious brands/cars - that have auto trans, and are crazy fast (and certainly of comparable quality to the Viper!!!). If a Ferrari 458 isn't great, nor a Gumpert Apollo, nor - well you should get the picture, and i give up. I don't think i missed any inferences with my previous statements.

Perhaps you don't push your street car like others of us may, or live where roads are challenges as much as tracks? Seconds and Tenths may well matter - depends on who you're driving with and for what purpose. Hundredths wouldn't probably matter, but that's not the point. And left foot braking is much more car control than not...but perhaps you haven't read, nor put into practice Ultimate Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley? I'd rather have that option with my left foot, but don't in a clutch car (i tried it, but i've not got inspector gadget legs/feet). ACR Steve would be faster with the F1/Auto than the manual - by a second or more around any track. I bought (and will continue to buy) Vipers because they are simply awesome, manual only option or not, and virtually indestructible from my experience. BTW (referring to your seat time insult) - i have my comp licenses for two organizations, and have raced. Uhhh, vipers ARE real race cars. They just need the appropriate safety equipment and to pass tech, and they're competitive and ready to go...

[Jack B]

You are exactly right, just an opinion, but, the naysayers probably have never driven a 700-1000 hp car and do not realize the difficulty in trying to keep a manual transmission car on the road.

A viper with an auto would go low 10s. would be a fun car. I would buy a viper with an auto. I don't road race.More 1/4 Mile. a 150shot and an AUTO = 9.5s@145

[vegasgtr]

You are exactly right, just an opinion, but, the naysayers probably have never driven a 700-1000 hp car and do not realize the difficulty in trying to keep a manual transmission car on the road.

Its not the Manual part , Its more of the clutch can't handle the abuse. Imagine a viper with DCT? Holy hell that would be sick.

[Jack B]

For drag racing the 8-speed auto would be hard to beat.

Its not the Manual part , Its more of the clutch can't handle the abuse. Imagine a viper with DCT? Holy hell that would be sick.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

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Wouldn't this also work in a Gen 4?

Yes should be no problem to make it work in a Gen 3, 4
Thanks
Wayne

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

i assume aftermarket software to handle the shifting? motec?

No The trans will have a stand alone controller and Arrow will hopefully build a engine tune for it
Hard to do anything with Motec for under 10k LOL

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Hmmm. I'm thinking an X with this could be an even more formidable track weapon. Now i'm interested.

I plan to install one in my track car for testing I know the ZO6 had some overheating issues so all of my installs will have a lot of cooling

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

A viper with an auto would go low 10s. would be a fun car. I would buy a viper with an auto. I don't road race.More 1/4 Mile. a 150shot and an AUTO = 9.5s@145

This setup should come out of the hole like nothing else the ZO6 runs a 2.41 rear I plan to install the 3.07 to start with and see how it goes from there

[J TNT]

Looking forward to your final results !

[gpearl]

Well I will say this. When you pay for my car payment, then you can have a say in what I buy or what I want as a buyer. Do I like driving a stick? You bet I do. Do I like driving an automatic? You bet I do. Plenty of people like driving them as well. GM sells more A8 Z06s than they do M7s.

I think you're bang on.

[vegasgtr]

so what is the earliest this will be available?

[slovenom]

This will b sick

[SADVIPER]

Firm believer that one good reason to buy viper is manual trans. Paddles are for pussies!

Hooyaa bro!

[Shooter]

I plan to install one in my track car for testing I know the ZO6 had some overheating issues so all of my installs will have a lot of cooling

That will be great. I look forward to it.

[I Bin Therbefor]

[QUOTE=Whitemamba;145437]GM sells more A8 Z06s than they do M7s.[/QUOTE

IMHO, so would Viper.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

so what is the earliest this will be available?

I hope to have the first one done in about a month or two
just waiting on the trans to arrive it's on the truck according to my local Chevy dealer
I will start posting pic when I start
Thanks