8 speed auto in a gen 5 viper

[Vypr Phil]

sure they are... not because of the paddles though!

Well yeah they kind of are. 5'8" and 120lbs is a swoll F1 driver. :ROFL:

It seems that I can count on colorful replies to my posts, nice not to be disappointed.

Often times the astounding stupidity is hilariously entertaining, thanks for the laughs guys!

For those more interested in facts than inane opinions, here is a good read on the physical conditioning of Formula 1 racers:
http://www.healthfitnessrevolution.c...ula-1-fitness/

[Vypr Phil]

Wayne, before heavily investing time, effort, hope and money, I would recommend, as others have already mentioned, to talk to the folks at Viper Exchange. They are great people with unrivaled passion for the future and the performance of the Viper. Their exemplary dedication, risk taking and ingenuity should make the factory development team jealous.

Joining efforts instead of duplicating programs might be more efficient but in either case I commend you for your enthusiasm and for seeing a market niche inexplicably ignored by the factory.

I also commend Prefix and Viper Exchange for their efforts with the Convertible and Targa Viper modifications. As a narrowly focused automotive enthusiast community, we are truly blessed to have these resourceful aficionados in our midst!

[Disturbed]

I would think a rear mounted transaxle would be a good idea. Esp if it's the 8sp. A few other Benifits not posted are the fact you would now run a slight rear bias of weight. That will help with launches, braking and getting on the power coming out of a corner. Might push it from 50/50 to maybe a 48/52 split. With that weight low and right on the rear it's perfect.

[J TNT]

All good points and may run cooler being away from the engine.

[TrackAire]

All good points and may run cooler being away from the engine.

Heat will be the biggest challenge regardless if it is a slushbox or DCT.

Bruce H nailed it, that is the reality. There is a reason real road course race cars don't use manual clutch style transmissions any more.....you lose a fraction of forward momentum every time you shift the old fashion way.

The heat issue can be fixed, but the question then becomes at what cost and how much more weight.

An ACR with a DCT would be epic on the track......assuming the trans can be kept cool.

[Vypr Phil]

Heat will be the biggest challenge regardless if it is a slushbox or DCT.

Bruce H nailed it, that is the reality. There is a reason real road course race cars don't use manual clutch style transmissions any more.....you lose a fraction of forward momentum every time you shift the old fashion way.

The heat issue can be fixed, but the question then becomes at what cost and how much more weight.

An ACR with a DCT would be epic on the track......assuming the trans can be kept cool.

^^^This!

Mercedes-Benz figured this out years ago with their Viper inspired SLS equipped with a DCT transaxle. Would be nice if SRT could buy MB transaxles and adapt them for use in the Viper. Can you imagine an Extreme ACR with that mechanical configuration? MB has sold their transmissions to other manufacturers in the past such as Porsche. Porsche adapted MB automatic transmissions on their 928 transaxle.

Maybe one of our intrepid vendors could tackle this project, would be even more desirable than an 8-speed auto trans. Viper Exchange and Wayne, are you listening?

SRT, does one of these great vendors and Viper fanatics have to beat you to this one too? Maybe you should consider buying Viper Exchange like Mercedes-Benz bought AMG, win/win for all!

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

I would think a rear mounted transaxle would be a good idea. Esp if it's the 8sp. A few other Benifits not posted are the fact you would now run a slight rear bias of weight. That will help with launches, braking and getting on the power coming out of a corner. Might push it from 50/50 to maybe a 48/52 split. With that weight low and right on the rear it's perfect.

Not really planning on mounting the trans in the rear. I think that would be opening up a whole new can of worms
I would probably go for all wheel drive first
Thanks
Wayne

[DEMO MAN]

Not really planning on mounting the trans in the rear. I think that would be opening up a whole new can of worms
I would probably go for all wheel drive first
Thanks
Wayne

If I get my wishlist I want the paddle shift, AWD Viper with double overhead cams 40 valve supercharged convertible. Wayne I've seen your work on various cars and it's impressive. I have no doubts you could put this trans package together and make it equally as impressive. As much as I like the clutch and gears in mine I would consider this depending on your final results and the final cost. I say keep working toward this and I feel there's a market for it.

[SlateEd]

I would never consider buying it myself - I'm just not fast enough at the track to care about the tenths of a second you gain in shifting when I have dozens of seconds to pick up in braking and cornering...

of course whether we can admit it or not, 95% of Viper owners are in that same boat... Barely anyone gets to within reach of the limits of this car, and it's NOT because of the 'inefficient' 'old' 'outdated' 'dinosaur' 'low-tech' 3 pedal setup that we have.

BUT, I think you'll have customers anyway. drag racers, medical/special circumstances, that very small population that could actually use it at the track, and of course everyone's favorite target market, posers with extra $.

With the new ACR coming out, if you had a clean way to get paddles in the car you would probably see some business in a hurry. As others have said, safe to assume that VE is working on it for the same reason, but there's probably room in the sandbox.

If you make it work on a genIV you'd also have a compelling case for people who really want a fast track car but aren't willing to climb into the 160K genVextreme with your kit price range..
take an $85 Gen IV, put paddles in there and go time attack... that could be a compelling sale for some. Or add paddles to a current ACR instead of buying a new one...
your timing could be very good.

[Vprbite]

I would agree on making a kit that worked with the Gen IV ACR which is more easily attainable for many people would be attractive. Personally, I'm just amazed at the engineering that would go into making a slick kit that looked factory. That's impressive to me.

[socal]

What about this (below) sitting on top of a dog-ring style box:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-ScsLXPoE

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Transmission has been ordered
I was thinking of something like a E-Gear look might be cool
gallardo_hk20_e-gear_selector_final.jpg

[G37Sam]

Wow you don't waste any time! And that definitely looks cool! I'd love to see what the paddles will look like behind the sexy Gen V steering wheel.

[allans]

This all sounds good but, in the meantime, how about just a throttle blipper ?

[Black Pearl]

Are adapter bell housings already available?

[1.8t]

I think this will be a fascinating project. I love shifting as much as the next guy, but you can't deny the performance benefits/repeatability of DCT's and "fast" shifting auto's. My ISF had the fastest tq convertor auto in the world when it was introduced and I can honestly say it is a blast to rip through the gears. I never thought I would say that.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Are adapter bell housings already available?

No
I am building a custom billet aluminum one

[eucharistos]

very exciting!

[TooBlue]

Transmission has been ordered
I was thinking of something like a E-Gear look might be cool
gallardo_hk20_e-gear_selector_final.jpg

Sounds Great!

How much whp will your trans. handle?

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Sounds Great!

How much whp will your trans. handle?

They built it for the ZO6 so 650 + we have put over 1000 through the 6L90

[vegasgtr]

what would be the estimated price for the conversion? sounds awesome.

[MalingatorGTS]

Sad to say, after sitting in lots of traffic..some up hill, there are days when this idea sounds wonderful! Can't wait for updates!

[Viper Girl]

Transmission has been ordered
I was thinking of something like a E-Gear look might be cool
gallardo_hk20_e-gear_selector_final.jpg

Oh, damn... that looks awesome... can't wait to see what you do here....

[Propsail]

I wish I had talent

[JohnnyH]

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Woodhouse did this in a gen3 a few years back