How long can a Dealer let a 2013 sit?

[Newport Viper]

I know ZERO about the behind the scenes situation at a dealership.

So some questions came to mind.

How long can a dealer let a Gen V sit?

How much can they lose?

Hows the money ( are they finacing it? ) work?

What is the max they can cut the price?

I know Ralph was Tongue & Cheek about the Viper sitting there and looking sexy in the showroom.... but at what price/damage to the dealership?

[mnc2886]

From what I understand after 90 days they start paying a form of insurance on it, but I don't know what that is or costs exactly. If there are 2013 Vipers left after the summer, you will see aggressive deals made and I'm sure they will be incentives from SRT for it. I think at 3 years, it can no longer be sold as a new car and then the bottom really drops out. There will definitely be a few stragglers by next winter, so we'll see.

[Nine Ball]

There were new 2010 Vipers still on lots earlier this year. Depends on dealer.

[slitherv10]

From what I understand after 90 days they start paying a form of insurance on it, but I don't know what that is or costs exactly. If there are 2013 Vipers left after the summer, you will see aggressive deals made and I'm sure they will be incentives from SRT for it. I think at 3 years, it can no longer be sold as a new car and then the bottom really drops out. There will definitely be a few stragglers by next winter, so we'll see.

Well I believe I have seen a few 2010's brand new still lying around and the prices as still as they were in 2010. In the end, its supply and demand that will dictate the price, but, a car sitting for 3 years or less brand new, only tells me that it is too high asking price or the styling is unfavorable in comparison to a new current model.
In the 2010 case I think people are still on the fence as to whether to spend the same money on a 2013-2014, or take the chance that the new car is going to be a flop and the 2010's will hold their value and maybe gain as the styling is more favorable than the new one.
I personally think the new car is not what most expected and thus the Gen 4 cars, esp the ACR's have held their value because no one is selling theirs for new ones.
Supply and demand.

[v10enomous]

There were new 2010 Vipers still on lots earlier this year. Depends on dealer.

Still are...

[Ohiotj]

They can sit as long as they want. What it cost a dealer to let them sit depends on their flooring plan with the bank.

[Policy Limits]

I tweeted Ralph that I was one of the 400 who bought sight unseen & feel the car is lots of bang for the buck so to speak; he tweeted back by saying now they are approaching 600 units sold, but I'm not sure what percentage of those were 13's, if any. Really surprised to learn that new 10's are still listed and even more so that they're the same price 1/3 decade later. Any links to listings?

[slitherv10]

[QUOTE=Policy Limits;11545]I tweeted Ralph that I was one of the 400 who bought sight unseen & feel the car is lots of bang for the buck so to speak; he tweeted back by saying now they are approaching 600 units sold, but I'm not sure what percentage of those were 13's, if any. Really surprised to learn that new 10's are still listed and even more so that they're the same price 1/3 decade later. Any links to listings?[/QUOTE]


Here is one

http://viperexchange.com/2010-dodge-viper-new.php

heres another

http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-ve...AdIdZ441959659

[Policy Limits]

Looks like a special edition; really mean! Can't believe it hasn't sold in 3 years! It's the perfect color and the ACR was one of the best snakes made! What's anticipated depreciation on the V? My guess 30% in 3 years and 50% in five. What's the average depreciation over all gen's in 20 years?

[slitherv10]

Looks like a special edition; really mean! Can't believe it hasn't sold in 3 years! It's the perfect color and the ACR was one of the best snakes made! What's anticipated depreciation on the V? My guess 30% in 3 years and 50% in five. What's the average depreciation over all gen's in 20 years?

I would say the color combo and price are not at most peoples favorable point. Price first of course. If the price was say 90K it would be gone tomorrow. Not sure about how much it cost the dealership to have that much money sitting in the car this long and the interested they pay during the 3 years. I don't think its a + towards to dealer, that's for sure. Limited edition or not, its just an ACR. Too many 1 of 1"s out there that killed that market already.

[VENOM V]

Looks like a special edition; really mean! Can't believe it hasn't sold in 3 years! It's the perfect color and the ACR was one of the best snakes made! What's anticipated depreciation on the V? My guess 30% in 3 years and 50% in five. What's the average depreciation over all gen's in 20 years?

Holy crap, that is eye opening. An ACR 7:12 Nürburgring Edition still on the lot? I would have thought that it would have been snatched up by a Viper die-hard enthusiast by now. There's also a Stryker Red Gen V in Monterey CA, still for sale. Surprising since something like 50 people that had put a deposit on a Stryker Red were turned away. It was damned hard to get mine.

I guess it goes back to what ViperSmith said a while ago- Vipers continue to be the best kept secret in the world of supercars.

[slitherv10]

Holy crap, that is eye opening. An ACR 7:12 Nürburgring Edition still on the lot? I would have thought that it would have been snatched up by a Viper die-hard enthusiast by now. There's also a Stryker Red Gen V in Monterey CA, still for sale. Surprising since something like 50 people that had put a deposit on a Stryker Red were turned away. It was damned hard to get mine.

I guess it goes back to what ViperSmith said a while ago- Vipers continue to be the best kept secret in the world of supercars.

Unfortunately if the brand continues to be the "secret" it will end up being one. It will be its demise in the end.

[sparkrn]

2013 Black with silver stripes in Rockford IL. The must not want to sell it because they are asking 10,000 over window sticker.

[Garron]

Some dealerships just want a viper in the showroom, It can attract people to other Chrysler products.

[VENOM V]

Unfortunately if the brand continues to be the "secret" it will end up being one. It will be its demise in the end.

Totally agree, hope they figure out how to change that.

[slitherv10]

Some dealerships just want a viper in the showroom, It can attract people to other Chrysler products.

It;s a sad day in paradise when were using our Halo/flagship car to attract costumers instead of making them one. I guess the Viper is becoming good at something ...eh!!(Canadian). There was a time when the Chrysler products attracted the costumer into the dealership and when they saw the Viper , they became owners of the latter.

[ViperSmith]

600 sold in 7 months, I am sure SRT would like more than that - but I think they'll move them all in the end.

A lackluster start, but I think 2014 is going to be good. The press has been solid and the SRT all access is getting real exposure.

The cars will move and bravo to SRT for the All Access, they are doing what they need to - finally.

[99RT10]

They can sit as long as they want. What it cost a dealer to let them sit depends on their flooring plan with the bank.

Exactly. As long as the owner is willing to paying the taxes and insurance, forever.

[Policy Limits]

Until they go bankrupt just like the factory did; the difference being the small guy dealers won't get bailed out of it like Detroit auto industry did

[ViperSmith]

Until they go bankrupt just like the factory did; the difference being the small guy dealers won't get bailed out of it like Detroit auto industry did

I think one of SRTs critical mistakes with the car was not labeling them ALL 14's this year, as you had suggested forever ago. Then there wouldn't have been this issue of "13's and 14's on show room floors"

But, I hope we see SRT turn it around!

[RedTanRT/10]

Hey Dave, yeah I'm guessing your really don't know how dealerships buy and sell cars. Answers below, not too much different the if you were selling your GIII

I know ZERO about the behind the scenes situation at a dealership.

So some questions came to mind.

How long can a dealer let a Gen V sit? Forever

How much can they lose? In theory more than the price of the car, if they sit on it forever

Hows the money ( are they finacing it? ) work? They pay for the car when it leaves the plant by financing it on their floor plan with a bank or finance company , today's rates are approximately 3%, say $250/month on a $100k invoice. They also pay for insurance, on a $100k say $100/month, plus they've got to wash it, etc..

What is the max they can cut the price? Unlimited, they own it

I know Ralph was Tongue & Cheek about the Viper sitting there and looking sexy in the showroom.... but at what price/damage to the dealership?

[Newport Viper]

Hey Dave, yeah I'm guessing your really don't know how dealerships buy and sell cars. Answers below, not too much different the if you were selling your GIII

Thanks! I really had no clue how it worked.

[ViperSmith]

I stopped by another local Dodge dealer today to look at a RAM. This is another one that I had put my info down for last Sept/Oct in hopes to order.

They also didn't call me back any closer to order time (They never called me back at all). They are still sitting on their 2013 GTS.

Two local Dodge dealers I gave my info to never called me to order when orders rolled around - they wanted the big $20k ADM and now probably will eat a loss.

[Policy Limits]

The premium is a joke; I bet even at MSRP inclusive of dealer cash back the average dealer made 15k on the average car.

[Ohiotj]

I hate to say it but there is a reason why this car was dead a few years ago. I think the price is too high for the new gen v. Dumb down the Interior content to a reasonable level, no fancy radio, leather stitched from alligator hair, etc. if they could price it in the 80's or so it would be open to more buyers. I know it easy to say but a cheaper car with a v10 sounds more fun then a fancy car with a v 10. I Know it's not a common mans car but you can't price yourself outta the game either.