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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    now were talkin

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    How the hell is he supposed to know the answer? Being a buyer/owner he isn't part of their problem. There's tons of threads that speculate the reason for the slump is not enough HP (because 640 is so little lol) poor marketing, high price point and inability to easily modify. I don't agree with any of these. But I can tell you one constructive criticism I have and it's a legitimate concern that I voiced to even the CEO: not having SRT exclusive dealerships. If I had confidence in my service experience, I wouldn't think twice about upgrading to the vert. But given the current state of the servicing experience at an authorized dealer, I will think much more than twice about staying in the brand. What good is a factory warranty that you either can't utilize or are afraid to? My new Maserati was the same price as my snake and with the former I don't even bat an eye when taking it in, but can't say the same for the reverse scenario

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    Brother, you are wasting your time responding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Policy Limits View Post
    How the hell is he supposed to know the answer? Being a buyer/owner he isn't part of their problem. There's tons of threads that speculate the reason for the slump is not enough HP (because 640 is so little lol) poor marketing, high price point and inability to easily modify. I don't agree with any of these. But I can tell you one constructive criticism I have and it's a legitimate concern that I voiced to even the CEO: not having SRT exclusive dealerships. If I had confidence in my service experience, I wouldn't think twice about upgrading to the vert. But given the current state of the servicing experience at an authorized dealer, I will think much more than twice about staying in the brand. What good is a factory warranty that you either can't utilize or are afraid to? My new Maserati was the same price as my snake and with the former I don't even bat an eye when taking it in, but can't say the same for the reverse scenario


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    Quote Originally Posted by slitherv10 View Post
    Look....I get that most of you that purchased the Gen 5 are finding reasons and grasping straws as to why you bought and your trying to convince the rest of us that your decision was justified....

    Listen, its getting tiring to sit and read and listen to threads and posts over and over again trying to justify this car. It is what it is .
    Why should any Viper owner, of any generation, get accused of "having to justify" their purchase, on A VIPER SITE? The Gen 5 owners are just as fanatical about their own cars, but it seems some of you have a problem with this fact. The very same reasons you love your own Viper, also translate to the newest one. Sure, it costs more, and the "bang for the buck" reasons aren't there. But, the last time I checked, all Vipers were considered expensive when they were brand new. This isn't some new trait.

    I can probably speak for most Gen 5 owners here, regarding the low sales numbers. We really don't care all that much about what others are or aren't buying. We bought what we want. If they stopped building Vipers tomorrow, it wouldn't change how I feel about my car. Hey, fewer of us with them just means even more exclusivity. Do I want the Viper to die? Of course not. But, it seems many of you do, as several can't wait to bash SRT or the new Viper, and perpetuate the negativity. How about trying to discuss the positives, instead of berating the negatives all of the time?

    We get it, the Viper isn't selling as well as initially planned. If you want to fix what you perceive as a big problem, go buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    Why should any Viper owner, of any generation, get accused of "having to justify" their purchase, on A VIPER SITE? The Gen 5 owners are just as fanatical about their own cars, but it seems some of you have a problem with this fact. The very same reasons you love your own Viper, also translate to the newest one. Sure, it costs more, and the "bang for the buck" reasons aren't there. But, the last time I checked, all Vipers were considered expensive when they were brand new. This isn't some new trait.

    I can probably speak for most Gen 5 owners here, regarding the low sales numbers. We really don't care all that much about what others are or aren't buying. We bought what we want. If they stopped building Vipers tomorrow, it wouldn't change how I feel about my car. Hey, fewer of us with them just means even more exclusivity. Do I want the Viper to die? Of course not. But, it seems many of you do, as several can't wait to bash SRT or the new Viper, and perpetuate the negativity. How about trying to discuss the positives, instead of berating the negatives all of the time?

    We get it, the Viper isn't selling as well as initially planned. If you want to fix what you perceive as a big problem, go buy one.

    Hey I get what what you guys are saying , as I have stated in most of my threads. I am not bashing this car at all if you read my posts and understood what I was expressing.

    I am a true enthusiast, one that loves all years, not just one. Including the new car. The one that is representing us currently. Not the past ones that have been there done that.
    Like I said in my last post, if I didn't care so much , I wouldn't be commenting. We all tell our kids what they don't want to hear all day every day,but, they don't like to here what we have to say as they think were wrong but infact were just stating the obvious. If we didn't care about them we wouldn't lecture them all the time. Same applies here. I am giving my input to what I would you loved to have seen and what is out there that boggles my mind. Me asking why the numbers are low and why I think they are is good for SRT. They want people to give their input good or bad. That is what helps things get better. I have said many positive comments about the car but seem to always get the wrap when I make a negative comment. Seems everyone including you only picks out the negative ones instead. If everyone sat here and said how perfect this car was and we wanted nothing more than what it is, SRT would not need to go above and beyond this car. What I am saying is productive criticism not destructive,. There is a difference. Sometimes you have to read between the lines to find the point.
    Difficult to get your point across though on text. People always read and interpret things in different ways. Unfortunate but true.

    Anyway, see it as you may, I also love this car for what it is (as I stated on my last line). I didn't buy one for the same reason I didn't buy a Gen 1 or a Gen 3. Personal taste. Buying one is not going to fix the problem, it would just add to it.

    I appreciate your thoughts though and for defending what you believe in. As you guys should mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    Why should any Viper owner, of any generation, get accused of "having to justify" their purchase, on A VIPER SITE? The Gen 5 owners are just as fanatical about their own cars, but it seems some of you have a problem with this fact. The very same reasons you love your own Viper, also translate to the newest one. Sure, it costs more, and the "bang for the buck" reasons aren't there. But, the last time I checked, all Vipers were considered expensive when they were brand new. This isn't some new trait.

    I can probably speak for most Gen 5 owners here, regarding the low sales numbers. We really don't care all that much about what others are or aren't buying. We bought what we want. If they stopped building Vipers tomorrow, it wouldn't change how I feel about my car. Hey, fewer of us with them just means even more exclusivity. Do I want the Viper to die? Of course not. But, it seems many of you do, as several can't wait to bash SRT or the new Viper, and perpetuate the negativity. How about trying to discuss the positives, instead of berating the negatives all of the time?

    We get it, the Viper isn't selling as well as initially planned. If you want to fix what you perceive as a big problem, go buy one.
    Here here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slitherv10 View Post
    Hey I get what what you guys are saying , as I have stated in most of my threads. I am not bashing this car at all if you read my posts and understood what I was expressing.

    I am a true enthusiast, one that loves all years, not just one. Including the new car. The one that is representing us currently. Not the past ones that have been there done that.
    Like I said in my last post, if I didn't care so much , I wouldn't be commenting. We all tell our kids what they don't want to hear all day every day,but, they don't like to here what we have to say as they think were wrong but infact were just stating the obvious. If we didn't care about them we wouldn't lecture them all the time. Same applies here. I am giving my input to what I would you loved to have seen and what is out there that boggles my mind. Me asking why the numbers are low and why I think they are is good for SRT. They want people to give their input good or bad. That is what helps things get better. I have said many positive comments about the car but seem to always get the wrap when I make a negative comment. Seems everyone including you only picks out the negative ones instead. If everyone sat here and said how perfect this car was and we wanted nothing more than what it is, SRT would not need to go above and beyond this car. What I am saying is productive criticism not destructive,. There is a difference. Sometimes you have to read between the lines to find the point.
    Difficult to get your point across though on text. People always read and interpret things in different ways. Unfortunate but true.

    Anyway, see it as you may, I also love this car for what it is (as I stated on my last line). I didn't buy one for the same reason I didn't buy a Gen 1 or a Gen 3. Personal taste. Buying one is not going to fix the problem, it would just add to it.

    I appreciate your thoughts though and for defending what you believe in. As you guys should mine.

    If you want to ramble on about why you think the Viper isn't selling, start a thread and discuss it there.

    Stop bringing down threads with the same rehashed arguments. We've all heard it before and guess what, it is tired and boring. You complained in one thread the Viper is "too refined," then in another you complained the TA has cloth seats and not leather. Clearly to some of us, no matter what SRT does some people won't be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    If you want to ramble on about why you think the Viper isn't selling, start a thread and discuss it there.

    Stop bringing down threads with the same rehashed arguments. We've all heard it before and guess what, it is tired and boring. You complained in one thread the Viper is "too refined," then in another you complained the TA has cloth seats and not leather. Clearly to some of us, no matter what SRT does some people won't be happy.

    I'm guessing from you and some others that negative opinions are not wanted here. just positive thinking.

    Ok then, ill join that band wagon and say the new car is everything I and everyone else including yourself could have ever wanted. It is a perfect car with no flaws and or regrets. How SRT could pull such a stunt and make the perfect car Ill never know. SRT please keep this car as is for the next few years, change nothing and everyone and demand will exceed supply.
    The world is such a perfect place when people keep their opinions and thoughts to themselves, especially negative ones.

    I guess surveys from companies should be banned as they don't work. All the questions just have positive answers.lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by slitherv10 View Post
    I'm guessing from you and some others that negative opinions are not wanted here. just positive thinking.

    Ok then, ill join that band wagon and say the new car is everything I and everyone else including yourself could have ever wanted. It is a perfect car with no flaws and or regrets. How SRT could pull such a stunt and make the perfect car Ill never know. SRT please keep this car as is for the next few years, change nothing and everyone and demand will exceed supply.
    The world is such a perfect place when people keep their opinions and thoughts to themselves, especially negative ones.

    I guess surveys from companies should be banned as they don't work. All the questions just have positive answers.lol
    You clearly can't or refuse to grasp the point which is being made.

    Want to discuss what SRT can do better? Start a thread about it.

    Want to discuss what you don't like? Start a thread about it.

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    ^^he has a point ^^

    The title of this thread is "nice article about the gen v".


 
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