Need a quick response please

[outnumbered]

Do the new vipers have Vin numbers on the motors?

[KB Viper]

yes they are vin matched. if you get a new motor under warranty they will vin match it to your vin so you wont' get crushed on resale. do you need a new motor?

[outnumbered]

Yes. Thanks

[KB Viper]

Yes. Thanks

rod bearing failure?

[outnumbered]

rod bearing failure?

Honestly, I'm not sure that they know. The dealership has tried all the obvious options with no success. However, I got a call tonight on whether I would accept a crate motor; hence my VIN# concern.

[ViperJon]

Oh no....not another one...

[ViperSmith]

I don't think it is that big of an issue, personally.

How many people check?

[outnumbered]

I don't think it is that big of an issue, personally.

How many people check?

With this type of car, I would.

[ViperSmith]

With this type of car, I would.

Voice of Reason has his replaced, I'd ask him what impact it had on trade in.

[outnumbered]

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter, because I don't plan on selling the car. However, it sounds like it might be a mute point with what KBViper says above.

[ViperDC]

These arent investments, it wouldnt bother me personally

[Rapidrezults]

These arent investments, it wouldnt bother me personally

I agree. If you ever decide to sell it, I highly doubt it will be an issue.

I've traded in many cars and I don't think I've ever had someone ask me about any warranty or service problems that I had with the vehicle to be traded in. The dealers are too busy getting excited about the new purchase you are about to make to care. On the other side, if you are selling via a private party transaction, I think the explanation is such that Dodge couldn't figure out the problem and decided to give you a new crate motor. That is, if it even comes up in conversation. Plus, you have enough compensating factors, rare color combo etc., that I can't see it even becoming a factor. Enjoy the car regardless of the outcome and don't look back!

[Reaper]

Hate hearing this but if they give you a new engine, thats the best possible outcome. I get home from work today and get 2 recalls in the mail for my car, the airbag shim and the door node. Not big deals by any means for a hand built car but now I read this too. Im wanting to get the Arrow PCM for my car but after I keep reading about engine replacements and recalls, I think Im gonna hold off for a while and enjoy my warranty. I love this car, dont get me wrong, but it seems there are some issues floating around with them.

[Simms]

What was the mileage again?

[Aspirations57]

What was the mileage again?

He stated 3,700 in his original Limp Mode post. Not good to hear.

[outnumbered]

What was the mileage again?

3700

[FLATOUT]

On a carbon or TA I would absolutely want numbers matching.

[ViperJon]

Yet another catastrophic engine failure on a Gen V. Will this one be blamed on oil starvation like the others? Baloney.
I'll bet the engineers know why but there is no way they are going to do a recall and replace/repair hundreds and hundreds of engines.

[Fatboy 18]

What the hell is going on with these cars?

Is there or is someone keeping a register on all the failures of the new Gen v?

This is essentially the same engine as the Gen IV is it not? Why so many problems?

[outnumbered]

Hopefully these are isolated incidents, and owners can rely-on and enjoy their cars. I don' feel any differently about the car now than what I did when I picked it up....just a little disappointed that I don't have it. Quality issues happen, but at the end of the day for me, it's all about the end result. Hopefully in the not too distant future, I'm driving again, with no further thoughts of this ordeal.

I just want it back for the Dragon.

[Coloviper]

Hey if Dodge is standing behind the product and replacing the motor, that is all you can ask for at this time. Chances are the new one will be a bit stronger. Typically the new crate motor is stronger as the last thing the manufacturer wants is to still have an issue after all the hassle.

If they put your VIN in place, then keep paperwork and don't worry about it. If you were replacing on your own, that hurts value. One instance shows abuse by you or other owners, the other is a mistake by manufacturer. Big difference on resale depending on circumstances.

[Blue T/A 2.0]

If you are concerned about numbers matching, check to see if Arrow can fix your current engine. In the old days, it was a plus to have an Arrow rebuilt engine.

[outnumbered]

Just left the dealership. When I trailered the car to them, it rained slightly, which left some water spots. Knowing that was driving me crazy. So they allowed me to come in and clean it up. I feel a little better now.

[XSnake]

Depending on the damage your current engine could be sent to Arrow and fixed, thus keeping the #'s matching. This would take more time though. You might want to contact Arrow directly and just tell them the situation. Let them call your dealership service dept.

[Aspirations57]

Guys I think you are all getting to wound up over the numbers thing. Most of us will be dead by the time these car will rise in value from a collectors standpoint. The thing that would worry me most is damage caused pulling and replacing the engine. Body and frame damage would put me off way more then an engine replacement. As long as the OP gets full documentation of the whole procedure I dont see any loss in value on resale. There are a bunch of 1 of 1 Vipers out there and I have yet to see any record resale of any with the exception of GTS-Rs. Plenty of old Ferrari's with replaced engines and its not hurting their values.
The first order of business is to get the car fixed correctly and the next is to drive and enjoy it.