Clutch bleed screw?

[1evilviper]

Can someone please tell me or show me a picture of where the clutch bleed screw is on our cars? I have it in the air on the lift and am having zero luck finding it!!

[AZTVR]

Post deleted. Superceded by accurate posts below.

[Steve-Indy]

CORRECTION...NO clutch bleeder on Gen V's...please read ALL of the posts that follow.

Be sure to read Tom Sessions' post and my long post from the service manual.

Thanks to all contributors !!

[viper04]

Thanks Steve-Indy for the info.

[Steve M]

Pretty sure the Gen 5 doesn't have one.

[Steve M]

Take a look at this thread:

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...h-system-gripe

It was a design change that is unique to the Gen 5 Vipers.

[Tom Sessions]

As per Chrysler

If the clutch slave cylinder or plumbing line has been disconnected or replaced, bleeding air from the hydraulic system may be necessary. The hydraulic fluid reservoir (1) is shared with the hydraulic brake system and is linked to the clutch master cylinder through a fluid supply tube (2). The pressure line linking the master cylinder to the slave cylinder is routed in a downhill configuration. Air that may be trapped in the master cylinder, slave cylinder, and lines will travel upward through the supply tube and into the brake/clutch reservoir. There is no bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.

[1evilviper]

thanks a lot for the info

[Gonabite]

thanks a lot for the info

UMMMM...... where is the Hellcat beat down video?

[Steve-Indy]

1evilviper and viper04...good to speak with both of you !! As noted, TOM SESSIONS kindly enlightened us all per telephone and his subsequent post. THANKS, TOM!!!

Here is a little longer discussion that "I came across" via Chrysler publication:

"Clutch/Standard Procedure
STANDARD PROCEDURE - CLUTCH SYSTEM BLEED
Special Tools: Click to display a list of tools used in this procedure
Determine if master cylinder requires bleeding or if the complete system requires bleeding.

Uncouple clutch master cylinder line from the clutch slave cylinder with Line Disconnect Tool, Clutch Line Disconnect 6638A .

Slowly depress the clutch pedal.
If pedal feels hard in a short distance, air is present in the clutch slave cylinder.

If pedal feels spongy air is present in the master cylinder.





NOTE: Do not apply too much force as this will cause the uncoupled male coupling to blow out.



LINKAGE BLEED




NOTE: If the clutch slave cylinder or plumbing line has been disconnected or replaced, bleeding air from the hydraulic system may be necessary. The hydraulic fluid reservoir (1) is shared with the hydraulic brake system and is linked to the clutch master cylinder through a fluid supply tube (2). The pressure line linking the master cylinder to the slave cylinder is routed in a downhill configuration. Air that may be trapped in the master cylinder, slave cylinder, and lines will travel upward through the supply tube and into the brake/clutch reservoir. There is no bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.



Check the brake master cylinder reservoir fluid level, if necessary, add D.O.T. 4 brake fluid.

CAUTION: Use only D.O.T. 4 brake fluid. Other fluids are not compatible.







Release the retaining clip (1) at the slave cylinder coupling (2).

Separate the line from the slave cylinder enough to create a leak.

Slowly actuate the clutch pedal until fluid flows from the open coupling.

Snap the slave cylinder coupling together until the retaining clip locks in place.


Actuate the clutch pedal several cycles until the slave cylinder releases and applies the clutch.

Allow the clutch to rest for a count of 20 to allow the fluid to stabilize.

Actuate the clutch to verify proper operation.

If necessary, top off the fluid level in the reservoir.

Road test the vehicle to verify the repair.



MASTER CYLINDER BLEED




NOTE: If the clutch master cylinder or plumbing line has been disconnected or replaced, bleeding air from the hydraulic system may be necessary. The hydraulic fluid reservoir (1) is shared with the hydraulic brake system and is linked to the clutch master cylinder through a fluid supply tube (2). The pressure line linking the master cylinder to the slave cylinder is routed in a downhill configuration. Air that may be trapped in the master cylinder, slave cylinder, and lines will travel upward through the supply tube and into the brake/clutch reservoir. There is no bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.



Check the brake master cylinder reservoir fluid level, if necessary, add D.O.T. 4 brake fluid.

CAUTION: Use only D.O.T. 4 brake fluid. Other fluids are not compatible.







In severe cases, release the retaining clip (1) at the master cylinder (1) Peak Torque Limiter (PTL) coupling (2).

Separate the line from the PTL enough to create a leak.

Slowly actuate the clutch pedal until fluid flows from the open coupling.

Snap the PTL coupling together until the retaining clip locks in place.


Actuate the clutch pedal several cycles until the slave cylinder releases and applies the clutch.

Allow the clutch to rest for a count of 20 to allow the fluid to stabilize.

Actuate the clutch to verify proper operation.

If necessary, top off the fluid level in the reservoir.

Road test the vehicle to verify the repair."

[Jack B]

Are you having a problem?

Can someone please tell me or show me a picture of where the clutch bleed screw is on our cars? I have it in the air on the lift and am having zero luck finding it!!

[ViperGeorge]

If you track the car and need to change the fluid for the brakes what do you do about the clutch? If they share systems won't the dirty brake fluid make it into the clutch slave cylinder? How do you insure that all the fluid is flushed? I'm confused. Why would SRT design a system that shares fluid between the clutch and brakes for a car that is supposed to see the track? Are they literally trying to save a few bucks on the extra reservoir? Is it possible to separate the two systems? Am I missing something or is SRT's design a bad idea?

[viper_eddie]

If you track the car and need to change the fluid for the brakes what do you do about the clutch? If they share systems won't the dirty brake fluid make it into the clutch slave cylinder? How do you insure that all the fluid is flushed? I'm confused. Why would SRT design a system that shares fluid between the clutch and brakes for a car that is supposed to see the track? Are they literally trying to save a few bucks on the extra reservoir? Is it possible to separate the two systems? Am I missing something or is SRT's design a bad idea?

I'm curious to hear the answers to this, too. I glanced through the instructions quickly but it seems you have to pump the pedal basically in all circumstances. Does the lack of a bleeder nipple/screw mean you can't use one of those purpose built bleeder pumps?

[ViperGeorge]

I've just been looking at my Gen 5 and my Gen 4. It would look to be a simple thing to add another reservoir for the clutch. I think you could use one off of a Gen 3/4. Only problem I see is finding a good place to mount it. I assume you would just disconnect the clutch line from the brake master, plug the port in the brake master, and connect the clutch line to a new reservoir. I may try this on my TA.

Summit Racing has some billet 1.5 oz clutch reservoirs. Would they be big enough? Anyone know what the capacity of a Gen 4 clutch reservoir was?

[Jack B]

Personally I like the idea. I had to pull the clutch multiple times last year due to a faulty after market clutch. In each case the self-purge feature worked. You could see the air appear in the resevoir.

The concept is simple and saves weight. The caveat is, will the process work every time.

Can someone please tell me or show me a picture of where the clutch bleed screw is on our cars? I have it in the air on the lift and am having zero luck finding it!!