FCC votes to regulate the internet...

[Vprbite]

If they decide against network neutrality, for sure they could, because all packets going to you would be going through a deep packet inspector to try and find out where the packet came from, what it does, and most importantly, how much money they can get from you for it.

I'd bundle it together like those idiotic cable/satellite packages so you'd have to pay in order to get "priority access" to important sites like the huffingtonpost™, match.com™, CNN™ and xHamster...only an extra $2.99 per month! Add $1.99 per month for Netflix™ gold streaming today, with speedy access to Disney™ and ESPN.com™! Only an extra $0.99 per month for a 'privacy shield' to exclude your browsing history from being listed on your monthly statement.

I've been thinking about getting a hamster. I will check out that site you recommended. How cool there is a website just for people interested in buying a hamster. I mean, I'm assuming that's what it is. What else would it possibly be?

[LeadfootRT10]

You must have Comanche in you, as supported by your name, and that you throw a bunch of arrows/barbs and disappear into the hills. Please elaborate.

[Vprbite]

Leadfoot, it's pretty clear you hate freedom and america. You make bald eagles cry.

[Vprbite]

Maybe, Injins are dumb, I know. I got a man-slave that is red.Got some German in him too lol

He was going to scalp me when he found out I was part Hebrew...he,he,he

Umm...what? That post makes about as much sense as an ass flavored lollipop.

[Vprbite]

Maybe, Injins are dumb, I know. I got a man-slave that is red.Got some German in him too lol

He was going to scalp me when he found out I was part Hebrew...he,he,he

Also, did you forget that this isn't "The Alley" again? Ya know, people often assume that we conservatives are racist idiots. The phrase "injins are dumb" and "I got a man slave that is red" outta solidify that reputation pretty well. so, thanks for that. Seriously, Archie Bunker thinks you need to dial it down a couple notches with the talk. It's been a while since I have heard someone use the word "injin" outside of a Mark Twain novel.

Perhaps you would be happier if you took your casual racism back to the Alley and post there. Oh, wait, you can't, cause the ban. Hmmm, guess you are gonna have to wait for the next monster truck rally. At least there the engines will drown out your wildly offensive remarks.

[Shooter]

Also, did you forget that this isn't "The Alley" again? Ya know, people often assume that we conservatives are racist idiots. The phrase "injins are dumb" and "I got a man slave that is red" outta solidify that reputation pretty well. so, thanks for that. Seriously, Archie Bunker thinks you need to dial it down a couple notches with the talk. It's been a while since I have heard someone use the word "injin" outside of a Mark Twain novel.

Perhaps you would be happier if you took your casual racism back to the Alley and post there. Oh, wait, you can't, cause the ban. Hmmm, guess you are gonna have to wait for the next monster truck rally. At least there the engines will drown out your wildly offensive remarks.

Good post.

[Sybil TF]

Good post.

Yeah right. I deleted it so if he is offended then he will do the same.

[Sybil TF]

Oh, wait, you can't, cause the ban. Hmmm, guess you are gonna have to wait for the next monster truck rally. At least there the engines will drown out your wildly offensive remarks.

Now you just offended everyone from the south on here...not into monster trucks but things change.

[Sybil TF]

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Perhaps you would be happier if you took your casual racism back to the Alley and post there. Oh, wait, you can't, cause the ban.

What's that? I'm a dude on there and I'm not telling...

[Viper Girl]

Anyone have comments on the FCC / internet story that this thread was started as?

[Voice of Reason]

I'll just leave this here:

http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality

[Sybil TF]

I'll just leave this here:

http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality

So when the FCC chairman says he wants to "regulate the internet like a utility" I guess you know about all those little taxes on your utility bill? Funny how this isn't mentioned in this blog...

Oh but no worries, we all love more taxes.

[Vprbite]

As I understand it, the argument is (just playing devil's advocate here, not that I agree) is that the backbone companies need a way to keep with the fact that demand and bandwith doubles every 2 years which requires increased infrastructure, and manpower. The concern is, if everyone is allowed the same access, that infrastructure will be rendered too quickly inadequate.

Does this analogy make sense? If it is correct please tell me, if not, also tell me, as I am trying to understand everything here as well as I can...it's like parking spaces at a football game. Right now, everyone gets a parking pass. But when they get to the game, half the people are setting up grills and tailgating. Thus by game time, all spaces will be spoken for without everyone's needs met. So what they want to do is charge per parking spot, not per pass. So you could buy 15 spots and throw the biggest tailgate ever. Now you have adequately paid for how much of the parking lot you use. However, somebody who is only using one parking space could be giving away the best ribs in the world but you would never find your way to them unless they rented 15 spaces and threw a huge tailgate also. Only, they don't have the money to do that. So they quit tailgating altogether.

That's what it feels like to me. Am I right on any of this? If it's the ramblings of a madman hungry for ribs, you can say that too.

[BlknBlu]

hmmmmm ribs

Bruce

[Sybil TF]

The problem I have with this is every darn time the govt. get it's creepy hands on something it goes bad real fast....and it's always about money and control hidden behind social justice.

[Voice of Reason]

The problem I have with this is every darn time the govt. get it's creepy hands on something it goes bad real fast....and it's always about money and control hidden behind social justice.

Yep, because banks proved they don't need any govt regulations. Or companies dealing with hazardous waste, I'm sure they all would have stopped dumping it into rivers and into our skies on their own.

Even if, IF, they did start charging a menial tax to pay for the regulation they are providing it's worth it compared to what companies like Comcast have already shown what they are willing to do being unregulated (see my link above).

[Sybil TF]

Yep, because banks proved they don't need any govt regulations. Or companies dealing with hazardous waste, I'm sure they all would have stopped dumping it into rivers and into our skies on their own.

Even if, IF, they did start charging a menial tax to pay for the regulation they are providing it's worth it compared to what companies like Comcast have already shown what they are willing to do being unregulated (see my link above).

Yes I saw your link but it doesn't address the FCC chairman unless I missed it. He hasn't even released exactly what the rules are before they voted on it. Reminds me of "we have to vote for it before we can know what's in it" lol

[LeadfootRT10]

The most concise description of what net neutraility is and why what the FCC has done is a good thing.....

http://youtu.be/fpbOEoRrHyU

[Vprbite]

What do you mean a good thing? If they support the fast lane/slow lane model? Isn't that a bad thing?

The FCC hasn't come forward to say that it will stand watch and thump companies over the head who try to show preferential treatment to some sites and poor treatment or shakedown to others. Unless they did and I missed it. Somehow I don't see them doing that. Especially given that their new chairman is a former ISP lobbyist.

It would seem to me, part of the problem is that ISP's want to get into the original content game, seeing how profitable it is. That way, they could have their own and tell Netflix they have to pay to remain fast enough to stream (which of course puts them in a bind as their business moves more and more towards streaming only). Netflix then has to tell its subscribers, "sorry but your 8.99/month now has to be 13.99 per month". If they lose 10-15% of their subscribers due to that, then they can't afford to pay the increasingly higher licensing fees that studios charge (as fewer people go to the movies and fewer buy dvd's in favor of streaming) and soon Netflix is out of business. Thus allowing the ISP to have full control of entertainment options. That doesn't mean that whatever they offer will suck, but it limits your choices as a consumer. It also could pose problems such as "I really like that new show on COX but I live in a Comcast area" or Vice Versa. Or a situation where if you want both of their original contents or exclusive contracts (only one may have fast Amazon, for example) you will have to pay for both, if you even live where that is possible. And all of this will stem from them being able to dictate who has the rights to distribute at high speeds.

Leadfoot, did this post power your I.Q.? I hope not. I know you don't have a whole lot to spare. ; )

P.S. Leadfoot and I are good friends and like to take shots at each other for fun. No offense is meant between he and I. My post was a legitimate thought and question on the subject, with a little good natured ribbing at the end towards my friend. If he asks me to take it down I will but I think it's more likely he will take a shot at me. Which, as a good buddy, he is allowed to do.

[Sybil TF]

The most concise description of what net neutraility is and why what the FCC has done is a good thing.....

http://youtu.be/fpbOEoRrHyU

Can you find another that has a host that isn't obnoxious, that I don't want to punch in the face? What a weiner.. blah.

[Viper Girl]

Oh man, this thread again... can we have a discussion without any personal challenges please?

My personal opinion is this is far from over, no one to my understanding outside of the FCC has seen the 322 page order...
Until the order is released, no one really knows what the FCC is doing or not doing.

If someone has a copy or a link to the copy of the order then please post it.