Coolant Drain and Fill ?'s

[Dajerseyviper]

Just today I got my 2 Gallons of Ford Premium Coolant. I compared its color with the Mopar Green (I had almost one gallon left from the previous change). As you can see, they look absolutely the same (Cheers!). And since the Ford product meets Chryslers MS-7170 I am pretty sure that there will be no issue using this product and a complete flush will not be necessary like when you would change to a different type of coolant.



Here are the specs from the Motorcraft website:





I know, there are other products meeting MS-7170 available here in Germany but those have a different color, some kind of blue/green and I wanted to keep the OEM color (call me picky)...

And what did your wife do when she found out you used her wine glasses to display poisonous anti-freeze???

[My98RT10]

And what did your wife do when she found out you used her wine glasses to display poisonous anti-freeze???

A. Wife was out shopping
B. Wife does not read here
C. Not wife's glasses
D. So where's the problem??

[gage]

They are brandy snifters, so they look like they belong to the man of the house

[Sybil TF]

They are brandy snifters, so they look like they belong to the man of the house

Real men don't drink brandy

[LifeIsGood]

Real men don't drink brandy

I don't know about that, but they sure don't drink antifreeze?

[Sybil TF]

I don't know about that, but they sure don't drink antifreeze?

I wouldn't be surprised if some of you have lol

[My98RT10]

I definitely prefer brandy over antifreeze. But wondering now whether there is a difference in taste of these 2 products??

[Sybil TF]

I definitely prefer brandy over antifreeze. But wondering now whether there is a difference in taste of these 2 products??

Try and and let us know lol

[Fatboy 18]

Just today I got my 2 Gallons of Ford Premium Coolant. I compared its color with the Mopar Green (I had almost one gallon left from the previous change). As you can see, they look absolutely the same (Cheers!). And since the Ford product meets Chryslers MS-7170 I am pretty sure that there will be no issue using this product and a complete flush will not be necessary like when you would change to a different type of coolant.



Here are the specs from the Motorcraft website:





I know, there are other products meeting MS-7170 available here in Germany but those have a different color, some kind of blue/green and I wanted to keep the OEM color (call me picky)...

Just tried to buy that Motorcraft Premium Antifreeze in the UK but sadly Ford parts.com is an American company not connecteded to ford parts UK who use diffrent products So Im still looking for a supplier

[My98RT10]

Here's where I bought it. They also ship to the UK. Maybe this is an option for you!?

http://www.ato24.de/

Their website is also available in English... ;-)

[Fatboy 18]

Here's where I bought it. They also ship to the UK. Maybe this is an option for you!?

http://www.ato24.de/

Their website is also available in English... ;-)

Ordered, thank you

[My98RT10]

Ordered, thank you

You are more than welcome

[thetalonguy]

I did a complete flush of the system over the weekend. I also replaced hoses with silicone and a new OEM Radiator cap. Took the fascia off, cleaned the recovery tank, flushed with distilled water multiple times until it flushed out clear. Filled with Mopar Red 5 year mix with distilled water ~50/50 mix.

How long did it take you to burp the air out of the system? It seems that it is taking me forever to get all the air pockets out. At first, I tried running the car without the pressure cap on, but coolant started pouring out. Then I would run the car until it started to overheat, let cool, then burp and refill. I must have repeated this like 7 times already, but it seems as though air is still in the system. Car continues to overheat after driving around the block. Also, it doesn't seem to be pulling any coolant from the recovery tank. The level appears to be the same as when I filled it the first time. The system is definitely pressurized as when I pull the radiator cap I can hear the "Suck". Should I just continue on and on to burp? Or do I need to invest in the air lift tool? I've probably put 2.5 gallons into the system so far.

[Sybil TF]

Was the car fine before you did the flush?

[AZTVR]

At first, I tried running the car without the pressure cap on, but coolant started pouring out.

This is why using the funnel suggested earlier in the thread is a good method. http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-24680.aspx

All the various methods are talked about in this thread. What worked for me is to put the Lisle funnel in place of the pressure cap. I also removed the hose from the heater valve and put a funnel on it.(the hose that goes direct to the heater core). Then I filled the system from the Lisle funnel; but, don't get that tank full yet; and then fill from the heater hose funnel. Then connect the heater hose. I can't remember if I burp the upper hose with the engine cold. Couldn't hurt but think that it probably does not doing anything with T-stat closed? Then run the engine with Lisle funnel in place. You will see the coolant expand into the Lisle funnel as it warms up and thermostat is still closed. Then it drops down when the T-stat opens (I assume.) Then add coolant as it heats up further and reaches equilibrium. Burp the upper hose with the engine hot when the T-stat is open. Top off the coolant, shut off the engine, remove the Lisle funnel, and put the cap on so that it sucks back from the fascia tank when it cools.

Like has been said before, make sure that the little hose going from the pressurized tank to the fascia tank is clamped well enough that it won't suck air into the system at the connections during cool down.

[thetalonguy]

Was the car fine before you did the flush?

The car would start to overheat sometimes upon initial startup if it kept idling with no movement, but would go back to normal once I started to move. Figured there was probably an air that would self purge.

This is why using the funnel suggested earlier in the thread is a good method. http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-24680.aspx

All the various methods are talked about in this thread. What worked for me is to put the Lisle funnel in place of the pressure cap. I also removed the hose from the heater valve and put a funnel on it.(the hose that goes direct to the heater core). Then I filled the system from the Lisle funnel; but, don't get that tank full yet; and then fill from the heater hose funnel. Then connect the heater hose. I can't remember if I burp the upper hose with the engine cold. Couldn't hurt. Then run the engine with Lisle funnel in place. You will see the coolant expand into the Lisle funnel as it warms up and thermostat is still closed. Then it drops down I assume when the T-stat opens. Add coolant as it heats up and reaches equilibrium. Burp the upper hose with the engine hot. Top off the coolant, shut off the engine, remove the Lisle funnel, and put the cap on so that it sucks back from the fascia tank when it cools.

Like has been said before, make sure that the little hose going from the pressurized tank to the fascia tank is clamped well enough that it won't suck air into the system at the connections during cool down.

Thanks for the info. I'll pick up one of those funnels. While I had the fascia off, I put a new ring clamp on the line to the recovery bottle. I also have a ring clamp on the line coming off the radiator cap. I also filled the heater lines first until it starting pouring out the other side.

[01sapphirebob]

The funnel is a great tool for doing the coolant. It'll be the best $20 you spend. Ive used on my wifes CRV and it worked like a charm.

[Sybil TF]

If you had a problem before I doubt is air. Infamous bad water pump or t-stat or plugged radiator...These cars gum up quick from what I have read but I use Evan's coolant in all my cars.

[Red Kaos]

Sybil TF, IRT Evans, which one of their coolants did you use? How many gallons do I need to purchase? Thanks for your write up and subsequent info you and the others have provided. Jim

[Eco-Friendly]

I had a hard time getting all the air out after I did a drain and fill. The temp gauge would show the engine temp go from normal to overheat very fast. I tried to burp the air out by squeezing the upper rad hose but could not get all the air out. I then opened the bleeder screw on the thermostat housing,topped up the fluid till it started to come out of bleeder hole,reinstalled screw and the the car did not overheat any more.Using the bleeder screw worked for me.

[Sybil TF]

Sybil TF, IRT Evans, which one of their coolants did you use? How many gallons do I need to purchase? Thanks for your write up and subsequent info you and the others have provided. Jim

NPG-Plus. I believe it took a little under 3 gallons but I would order 4 because you can't buy it at the local auto parts store. I keep 3 extra gallons because I run it in all 4 of my vehicles.

[Red Kaos]

Sybil TF, excellent; thank you. This is good timing since I will be changing all my fluids next week.

[Sybil TF]

Sybil TF, excellent; thank you. This is good timing since I will be changing all my fluids next week.

make sure you flush out your overflow tank on passenger side behind front fascia.