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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Schen View Post
    ACR? What ACR?

    Allpars 'reliable source'. Hmmm.

    I'll reserve any excitement till the word comes out from the D itself.

    --RS

    This ^^^^

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Viper Specialty View Post
    Uh, ever heard of Formula 1 or Indy? If done right, it makes no difference whether its coupe or vert.

    Regardless, I could care less about being able to officially put it in a track. I suppose it makes about as much sense as 1000 horsepower street cars........ Oh wait, I build those all the time. I guess maybe what the "track rats" want doesnt always equate to what sells.
    So you're saying you can take a car, lets say a Challenger that is on a 5 or 6 year production run, no major redesign changes, kind of overweight, not the best handling technology and put in a 707 hp motor and it would sell?....Ha, not in a million years, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper Specialty View Post
    Uh, ever heard of Formula 1 or Indy? If done right, it makes no difference whether its coupe or vert.
    right, now we are comparing full carbon monocoque multiple million dollar open wheel race cars to street legal cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    This ^^^^
    Uh oh, if Mark's skeptical, I'm skeptical. Let's call it cautious optimism then. I'll wait until I see her before sprouting full wood

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Far from my cup or tea - but awesome.

    Tuning
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    Viper basically has everything one could want now.
    We are missing the most important thing....AN OPEN AIR VERSION!

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    Please add option for analog gauges. I hate that screen shit in the V.

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    Did you tell them about the coming convertible, or is that still a secret!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTGTS View Post
    Yeah, because 700hp convertible track cars make a lot of sense....
    Perfect, you read my frickin mind.

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    Allpar = Gospel!

    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    This ^^^^

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    Carol Shelby once said "Coupes are for Chickens !" .....lol !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Far from my cup or tea - but awesome.

    Tuning
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    Viper basically has everything one could want now.
    Exactly. So glad that this BEAST is coming back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J TNT View Post
    Carol Shelby once said "Coupes are for Chickens !" .....lol !
    And verts are for chickens with their heads cut off, haha!

  13. #63
    Only thing I really doubt about this article is that it says that it will go into production in July as a 2016 model...they didn't start building the 2015s until November did they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J TNT View Post
    Carol Shelby once said "Coupes are for Chickens !" .....lol !
    It would have been real hard to sell all those AC Cobras without that thinking!

  15. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by VENOM V View Post
    And please, no ACR vert, LOL
    While it may not be practical for track use, the very rare Gen IV ACR vert is one of the most valuable cars out there and in some cases are worth more than their original MSRP. No other Viper can say that.
    Ask Bill Pemberton. Lol fail.

  16. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zybane View Post
    Naw. Guys like Randy Pobst still like the manual better. Lighter too. The GEN V ACR in manual could actually break the 7 min mark unlike the fake Z06 article. 8 seconds for the GEN V to gain over the GEN IV.
    Yes, everyone loves the manual, but it is and never will be faster than a dual clutch. Thats why I referenced the GT3, Porsche's technology in the PDK is incredible. This is a sub 475hp/324tq @3200lb car with all the down force in the world that's a 6 cylinder running low 11's in the 1/4mile.

    And where did you get the new ACR breaking 7 minutes? That is news to me, like someone said earlier, the X was gutted and on slicks. It is going to be tough as hell to break 7min without a better transmission and it wont be on the same rubber as X was either.

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    Pirelli mojo absolutely required. Trofeo R's specifically designed for Viper

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    Excellent! Now, two words: ACTIVE AERO!

    I hope Dodge finds a way to add AA; this will give it the best shot on the ring and distinguish it from TAs, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Excellent! Now, two words: ACTIVE AERO!

    I hope Dodge finds a way to add AA; this will give it the best shot on the ring and distinguish it from TAs, etc.
    Yup, they need to incorporate a DRS type wing that opens the flap on 120+mph straights for a drop in drag. If you follow F1, you'll know what im talking about.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_reduction_system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Excellent! Now, two words: ACTIVE AERO!

    I hope Dodge finds a way to add AA; this will give it the best shot on the ring and distinguish it from TAs, etc.
    This seems reasonable to me too. Low drag on the straights, high downforce in the corners and while braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rw99 View Post
    Pirelli mojo absolutely required. Trofeo R's specifically designed for Viper
    Amen, brother Rich

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    The HP should be fine as is, but increased stopping power, better aero, stickier tires and any diet the car can get will make it a true animal.

    Bruce

  23. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by daytonprowler View Post
    Dodge Viper ACR History While the Dodge Viper has long made a name for itself as being one of the best performing American production cars of all time, the American Club Racer took that performance to the next level. The ACR logo first appeared on the Dodge Viper in 1999, when the Viper GTS Coupe was enhanced to create the American Club Racer by adding a unique suspension setup, BBS wheels, adding a touch more power and removing some weight from the interior.
    To clarify, the ACR logo first appeared on the 1995 Neon Sedan. Without the Neon ACR, the Viper ACR may have never existed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Neon

    The ACR Neon, available with either the SOHC or DOHC engine, featured four-wheel disc brakes, Arvin non-adjustable struts for 1995–1996 models and Koni adjustable dampers for 1997–1999 models, thicker anti-sway bars, fast-ratio steering, heavy-duty front wheel hubs, and a five-speed manual transmission with a numerically higher .81 fifth gear and final drive ratio of 3.94 for quicker acceleration. 1995 through 1997 models featured adjustable camber. The computer-controlled speed limiter was removed from 1995 ACR models (limited to 135 mph (217 km/h) on later models), and ABS was also, to save weight. The ACR offers no badging to distinguish it from other Neon models; the only visible differences are a bumper with fog light holes, but no fog lights and a lack of side moldings. For 1995, the ACR was only offered to SCCA members, but in subsequent years it was available to the general public. The name "ACR" was initially the internal ordering code for the "Competition Package", as it was termed in dealer materials; however, as knowledge of the model spread, the ACR name stuck. The backronym "American Club Racer" was coined due to its popularity with club and grassroots racers.

  24. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    While it may not be practical for track use, the very rare Gen IV ACR vert is one of the most valuable cars out there and in some cases are worth more than their original MSRP. No other Viper can say that.
    Ask Bill Pemberton. Lol fail.
    Sly Stallone had a great looking one.

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    How much does a loaded 2.0 cost? Just curious


 
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