Matte black stripes over black look insane on this thing!

[LifeIsGood]

Zybane...you've had your say. You guys have successfully ruined this awesome thread with your back and forth...PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...take the rest of your stupid ass fight to Private Messaging...and this thread would be a lot better if a MOD cleaned up the cat fighting posts.

STOP already!

[triblk6spd]

Truth. Thanks man.

[Zybane]

This looks like a garage to you?

Yes, yes it does. It's my profession to call out people who talk out of their ass. Especially those in a simple trade that seriously over-exaggerate the level of skill needed in such trade. Posting pictures isn't going to change that for you. Using adhesion promoter on racing stripes as indicated by 3M will increase the durability of racing stripes. That's a fact. Weather you feel it's needed or not is just an opinion. You still cannot deny that fact. Oh, and since you guys are so new, you have no long term durability tests to back up any of your claims at being gods of the vinyl world.

You guys have successfully ruined this awesome thread with your back and forth...

You call this a fight? It's just mild entertainment while waiting for missions.

[Thawk97]

Wow - the first page is so great. Unfortunately, the following pages make the posters less impressive. Let's get back to great pics of the stripes!

[triblk6spd]

Missions? You are probably a pogue. Grab your pen and get to it buddy. Lmao.
Oh and no need for primer on simple stripes that will stick just fine.

[Zybane]

Missions? You are probably a pogue. Grab your pen and get to it buddy. Lmao.

Oh, a guy who lays vinyl down talking about things military. Now that's classic. Please say some more hilarious comments. The guys over here are having a good laugh.

I am Lord Vinyl, overseer of the land of car wraps. All bow before me!

[triblk6spd]

Hahahaa exactly what a pencil pushing pogue would say. Have fun homie and keep your head behind the desk.
And another bit of wisdom...skip the Viper...just because you have the money now to get one doesn't mean you will in the future. After my 6th year in the Marine Corps I got out a d took what I had and invested in a business that has done well for me. You on the other hand seem FAR too hard headed to ever run a real business. Keep the money you make over there and use it to get you started on a new path....don't fucking waste it on a Viper you undoubtedly won't be able to afford after the warranty runs out.

[Zybane]

Hahahaa exactly what a pencil pushing pogue would say. Have fun homie and keep your head behind the desk.
And another bit of wisdom...skip the Viper...just because you have the money now to get one doesn't mean you will in the future. After my 6th year in the Marine Corps I got out a d took what I had and invested in a business that has done well for me. You on the other hand seem FAR too hard headed to ever run a real business. Keep the money you make over there and use it to get you started on a new path....don't fucking waste it on a Viper you undoubtedly won't be able to afford after the warranty runs out.

Oh so you couldn't get promoted in the Marine Corpse. Now it all makes sense.

What kind of loan rate did your dad get on that garage in Texas?

[City]

Gents, can we move on from the personal exchange? We all get it. You harshly disagree.

I'd appreciate both of you responding ONLY to posts other than each others from this point. Trust me, neither of you are gaining any argumentative bonus points on the other anymore.

[Zybane]

Gents, can we move on from the personal exchange? We all get it. You harshly disagree.

I'd appreciate both of you responding ONLY to posts other than each others from this point. Trust me, neither of you are gaining any argumentative bonus points on the other anymore.

Ok City, I was just having a little fun.

Back on topic, matte stripes look sweet on a Viper.

[triblk6spd]

Gents, can we move on from the personal exchange? We all get it. You harshly disagree.

I'd appreciate both of you responding ONLY to posts other than each others from this point. Trust me, neither of you are gaining any argumentative bonus points on the other anymore.

Sounds good.

[triblk6spd]

....and because this is a stripe thread here are a few pics for comparison. These were my personal cars I did stripes on....kind of how I got into the matte black stripes theme in the 1st place.
My Roe ACR. These were wet applied which was cool because there wasn't any hard angles to cover especially as we left the NACA duct trim unwrapped. They came out super clean tho. This was back in 2008 maybe...


Also my C7Z w matte black stripes....same deal only dry applied...only hard part was the nose.

[Malu59RT]

Justin, wanna say that Gen II was back in 2009. At least I remember seeing it at TX2K that year or 2010, at Hennessy's place.

[triblk6spd]

Hahahaha ok sweet. Shit all blends in. So I probably did that back in 08 then. I loved that car!

[Malu59RT]

It got a ton of compliments back then!

[slowhatch]

Me reading this thread;



Please continue.

[FLATOUT]

I love watching triblk6spd own this dude. I always love it when some new guy shows up and starts a war with a guy that's been in the game for years LOL.

Me reading this thread;



Please continue.

[BlknBlu]

here was my version of flat black stripes on my old 05 SRT Ram.



Bruce

[IndyRon]

Ok Bruce, you have to explain the wheelie bars......what would it take to get a short box SRT Ram on it's rear wheels? I'm thinking over 1k rwhp.

[ViperSmith]

Ok Bruce, you have to explain the wheelie bars......what would it take to get a short box SRT Ram on it's rear wheels? I'm thinking over 1k rwhp.

Don't tell anyone, thats his rascal!

[triblk6spd]

Thanks FLATOUT.
....and BlknBlu that SRT10 looks bad ass. Nice wide stripes. I was thinking matte silver stripes on my silver Ram SRT10. Of course I'll have to slather Primer 94 all over them so they stick. I kid...I kid.

[Zybane]

I love watching triblk6spd own this dude. I always love it when some new guy shows up and starts a war with a guy that's been in the game for years LOL.

Ya, because being unable to deny that racing stripes would be more durable with adhesion promoter is getting "owned". I guess renting a garage in Texas allows you to alter the laws of physics. 3M > random upstart install shop.

[TrackAire]

Ya, because being unable to deny that racing stripes would be more durable with adhesion promoter is getting "owned". I guess renting a garage in Texas allows you to alter the laws of physics. 3M > random upstart install shop.

Interesting topic of discussion. By your knowledge of the 3M product, it seems you are in the vinyl wrap business yourself. Maybe you can help clarify some questions I have regarding the 3M product.

If I was to do stripes on my Viper and used an authorized 3M installer (I would assume 3M only sells to authorized installers such as yourself) what is the warranty period for the product once you install it? Is the warranty valid only if the adhesion promoter is used? Does 3M recommend it or require it?

I've had 3 cars done in clear bra and have a bunch of friends that have done their vehicles also. What I've found is the success of a clear bra or wrap is usually 90% the person or installer putting it on the car. I would also think that 3M knows it has installers that don't do such a great job and customers call them back before the warranty period is up and complain about lifting edges, etc. Maybe the adhesion promoter helps 3M get their vinyl wrap material past the warranty period with much fewer warranty claims since maybe not all installers are really that talented???

Once the adhesion promoter is used and I want to remove the stripes, wrap, etc....will it cost me more because of the labor to remove the more stuck on vinyl and is there a chance that the adhesion promoter will possibly damage my paint under the wrap? Does 3M give any guarantee that the adhesion promoter will not damage the original paint? What if the stripe is removed after the 3M warranty period and there is paint damage, am I covered?

IMO vinyl wraps are a much more efficient way to go than painting stripes on, especially if you want to change the look of a car often or want it back to original condition.

[Zybane]

You don't have to be in the vinyl business to apply vinyl. But there is a learning curve so most people just have a shop do it. I've done quite a few panels on my vehicles, it just requires patience. Anyone can buy 3m Vinyl. People with vinyl businesses will of course say its impossible to do it yourself, to save their earnings. Same thing that happened with Plasti-dip, took a nice chunk out of the vinyl business. Although in my opinion of course vinyl is a superior product. All of your warranty questions can be found here:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/6...f?&fn=1080.pdf


As for vinyl racing stripes, yes of course by more "efficient" it's quicker and far cheaper than painted racing stripes. But the contrast of vinyl racing stripes on the factory paint also creates a unique look. My largest concern with putting racing stripes on my vehicle is it's more or less a permanent decision. That is based on the subtle change in the clear coat etc that will occur with the covered versus uncovered surface over the years. You could simply just re-apply more racing stripes if the vinyl has degraded.

Interestingly, the unnamed shop that has been discussed in this thread is not a 3M certified installer according to 3M's web site.

[plumcrazy]

....and because this is a stripe thread here are a few pics for comparison. These were my personal cars I did stripes on....kind of how I got into the matte black stripes theme in the 1st place.
My Roe ACR. These were wet applied which was cool because there wasn't any hard angles to cover especially as we left the NACA duct trim unwrapped. They came out super clean tho. This was back in 2008 maybe...


Also my C7Z w matte black stripes....same deal only dry applied...only hard part was the nose.

ive always been a big fan of your cars. been wanting to do a black/black car cause of you actually.