RSI/Racing Solutions Experience F-

[slovenom]

Im glad he has no Nutswingers here...Will is a crook

[Vprbite]

Im glad he has no Nutswingers here...Will is a crook

What if he pinky swears that this time it will be done right and quicky? I mean he pinky swears and says "cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye"? Then we can trust him, right?

I think he keeps fire extinguishers around because after sending emails and texts to customers about the build, his pants are actually on fire.

[XSnake]

www.rsifraud.com

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[Sybil TF]

www.rsifraud.com

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Wow!! Wonder if this car will ever run again? What a shame...

[Dajerseyviper]

Where idd the guys engine and differential go? that's theft if you ask me..Is will running a chop shop?

[Vprbite]

I can't get on the website. Did it crash?

[XSnake]

I can't get on the website. Did it crash?

probably overloaded with hits.


It's working for me

[serpent]

That RSIfraud website should have other stories too, like the one where a Russian dude came to the states and paid $300k to RSI (Viper ACR included), for them to install a TT kit. This was back in 2008, I believe they still have his ACR that was purchased new too...

[XSnake]

That RSIfraud website should have other stories too, like the one where a Russian dude came to the states and paid $300k to RSI (Viper ACR included), for them to install a TT kit. This was back in 2008, I believe they still have his ACR that was purchased new too...

It's on there. Dereiter’s 2008 ACR

[commandomatt]

How is it possible that this guy still has all his limbs and a shop to do business in ??

Whatever happened to 'an eye for an eye'

[Vipes]

I can't get on the website. Did it crash?

Still works for me. I noticed that Will posts on the alley to defend his side of the story and you would almost have to believe him if there wasn't 20+ rip off cases against him. It takes a special kind of person to keep the lies going like that for years and years.

[FrankBarba]

I want to see the video of the guys getting mad & throwing items and telling him to get out....

[Vprbite]

How is it possible that this guy still has all his limbs and a shop to do business in ??

Whatever happened to 'an eye for an eye'

The site came up for me now.

I said before in this thread that I can not belive he is still upright. I in no way advocate violence in any way, shape, or form. I am just surprised no one has served him up some Texas justice.

And ripping off a wealthy Russian??? That's insane. Where no Chechnian's available to rip off? And does he know who tends to be wealthy there and how? They don't get wealthy by selling Cold War era Girl Scout cookies if you catch my drift. Bottom line, not the people to mess with.

I cant imagine giving this clown at RSI a nickel with all the horror stories. I mean, every once in a while there will be some customers who are never satisfied. In all businesses. It will happen from time to time. But the hits just keep on comin with this guy.

And they don't just look like builds where he got in over his head. It almost looks like how a serial killer dismembers their victims. Like they enjoy the suffering. I said before it's like a low budget horror movie but with Vipers instead of people. The Texas Chainsaw Viper Massacre.

I really hope this guy gets everything straightened out. The problem I could see happening is that he is awarded a judgment for 150k and since this clown doesn't have any money, the Viper owner gets that money in increments of 25 dollars per month.

In that audio where he goes to pick up his car, did anyone else notice the guy on the audio sounded like he was about to cry when he was asking them not to take pictures?

[Dajerseyviper]

Over 7 years for a TT build? You can design and fabricate an entire super car for 300k and in that half that time frame..

[trappster]

The site came up for me now.

I said before in this thread that I can not belive he is still upright. I in no way advocate violence in any way, shape, or form. I am just surprised no one has served him up some Texas justice.

And ripping off a wealthy Russian??? That's insane. Where no Chechnian's available to rip off? And does he know who tends to be wealthy there and how? They don't get wealthy by selling Cold War era Girl Scout cookies if you catch my drift. Bottom line, not the people to mess with.

I cant imagine giving this clown at RSI a nickel with all the horror stories. I mean, every once in a while there will be some customers who are never satisfied. In all businesses. It will happen from time to time. But the hits just keep on comin with this guy.

And they don't just look like builds where he got in over his head. It almost looks like how a serial killer dismembers their victims. Like they enjoy the suffering. I said before it's like a low budget horror movie but with Vipers instead of people. The Texas Chainsaw Viper Massacre.

I really hope this guy gets everything straightened out. The problem I could see happening is that he is awarded a judgment for 150k and since this clown doesn't have any money, the Viper owner gets that money in increments of 25 dollars per month.

In that audio where he goes to pick up his car, did anyone else notice the guy on the audio sounded like he was about to cry when he was asking them not to take pictures?

Funny you should mention that...there's a guy on the Alley that's getting refunded his relatively small sum of money (in the 4 figures) in increments of $100 here, $150 there per month.

[Vprbite]

That's more blood from the turnip than I would have expected. 100 bucks a month is a usable amount of money at least. Take it to the strip club and get some good out of it.

[Dajerseyviper]

Ripping off rich Russian dudes is not good for your health...How is Will still even alive at this point???

[ViperSmith]

That's more blood from the turnip than I would have expected. 100 bucks a month is a usable amount of money at least. Take it to the strip club and get some good out of it.

It is stupid to cash those checks, it shows they are "trying" to pay which can be a problem if it goes to court.

[Vprbite]

It is stupid to cash those checks, it shows they are "trying" to pay which can be a problem if it goes to court.

Unless it is a judgment already. But they will have proof that they tried to pay even if he didn't cash them. I think it's no question that they are owed all their money back and any judge will agree but all he has to do is file bankruptcy and a judge will come in and take that 70k down to 15k cause the judge is gonna try and get everybody paid something, as opposed to one person paid everything. It's gonna be a shitty situation for people who's cars are there which is probably why they are still "working with" RSI at all. They are probably trying to be the last car RSI builds before he declares bankruptcy. Or goes on the run.

[TitleMine]

I cannot believe this industry, which deals in six figure assets, still does not have standard loss-of-use, delay fees, etc. like contractors do.

I worked with a facility that needed its primary revenue-generating location closed down for renovations. All the bids that came in agreed to a standard fee: If we missed the deadline for opening, they'd be fined $6500 per day until the work was done; essentially if they failed to allow us to get back to making our daily profit they'd pay us as though they had. I can't believe there isn't a shop out there that's confident enough in themselves that they're willing to give discounts or suffer like a monetary penalty for late work. This is absolutely unacceptable and absolutely antediluvian in 2015. It's also, in my opinion, a huge business opportunity for a shop that thinks they can do better.

[Dajerseyviper]

I cannot believe this industry, which deals in six figure assets, still does not have standard loss-of-use, delay fees, etc. like contractors do.

I worked with a facility that needed its primary revenue-generating location closed down for renovations. All the bids that came in agreed to a standard fee: If we missed the deadline for opening, they'd be fined $6500 per day until the work was done; essentially if they failed to allow us to get back to making our daily profit they'd pay us as though they had. I can't believe there isn't a shop out there that's confident enough in themselves that they're willing to give discounts or suffer like a monetary penalty for late work. This is absolutely unacceptable and absolutely antediluvian in 2015. It's also, in my opinion, a huge business opportunity for a shop that thinks they can do better.

I agree. The issue is these guys spread themselves too thin and take way too much work than they can handle just to generate the business and take the $$$. Its almost criminal how some of them operate..

What I really cant believe is how this guy is still able to walk and talk...How has someone not kicked his ass into oblivion yet?

[TitleMine]

That RSIfraud website should have other stories too, like the one where a Russian dude came to the states and paid $300k to RSI (Viper ACR included), for them to install a TT kit. This was back in 2008, I believe they still have his ACR that was purchased new too...

God almighty. In 2008 that kind of money could have bought you a Carrera GT.

[G37Sam]

These pics are making me cringe!

[Viper Specialty]

I cannot believe this industry, which deals in six figure assets, still does not have standard loss-of-use, delay fees, etc. like contractors do.

I worked with a facility that needed its primary revenue-generating location closed down for renovations. All the bids that came in agreed to a standard fee: If we missed the deadline for opening, they'd be fined $6500 per day until the work was done; essentially if they failed to allow us to get back to making our daily profit they'd pay us as though they had. I can't believe there isn't a shop out there that's confident enough in themselves that they're willing to give discounts or suffer like a monetary penalty for late work. This is absolutely unacceptable and absolutely antediluvian in 2015. It's also, in my opinion, a huge business opportunity for a shop that thinks they can do better.

Never going to happen.

For one, I think people have a pretty warped perception of how much money is made in this business, and how difficult it is to operate efficiently. There are so many suppliers involved with a large scale build that is it borderline insanity. So, as the builder, we are now supposed to assume the risk of every single supplier and subcontractor in order to get a project contract, in an industry that is KNOWN for its inability to reliably supply needed components in a timely manner? All it takes is one single software issue on the tuning end to delay a project for months, and any builder would have ABSOLUTELY ZERO recourse or ability to even solve said issue. With any kind of large penalty, a couple projects running over will put a business under. This is not a contractor business that is straight labor and mostly profit, with everything under control of the business at all times, and raw materials available from a dozen local sources a phone call away.

The only way to do things in a format like you are asking is to do large-scale cookie-cutter builds that are all exactly the same, and to have a market following large enough to justify the copying of designs. You will also need a large footprint, as well as a small fortune in inventory to absorb the supplier delay risk. In other words, you just erased any custom projects from the list of possibilities, and you need a relatively large operation to even make it sustainable... which in general is the antithesis of what this market is all about.

Of course the obvious is that products or build components should be in hand before taking possession of the car if there is a time constraint. However, what is largely "left out" by many customers who have long lead times is that there were unknown issues with the supplied car, or, there are changes made along the way that drastically impact lead times, as now additional components must be ordered. This is, of course, often a problem as change-orders are not industry standard in this portion of the market. While I cannot argue their usefulness, on the other end, we builders have a choice: we can build, or we can do paperwork all day with the customer. The latter may make you feel better, but it doesn't get the car built any faster.

All I will say is that if you haven't been in this industry, try it for 30 days. My bet is that 7 days in, you will say "F this" and never look back. The industry is a disaster of hand-shake contracts on ALL sides that are never held up, customers who don't understand what they are asking for, and shops stuck in the middle who already assume all risk for a small part of the overall profit. Suppliers make all the money, and handle none of the risk... while the shops get stuck holding the bag.


It all comes down to one simple thing, and it should be pretty obvious: Do your homework. Contract or not. Lawyer or not. Sales pitch or not. A shop that can deliver, delivers every time. A shop that cannot deliver, will have a history that says so. No contract is going to change that... its just going to cost you a lawyer to chase it.


Lastly, please, nobody should take my posting as my sticking up for anyone involved with this thread. There are "real shop delays" and there are "business problems". Big difference... and that's what you guys are here to decide, not me.

[Bugman Jeff]

Lastly, please, nobody should take my posting as my sticking up for anyone involved with this thread. There are "real shop delays"...

As an example of the above, one of the cars I built when I was building cars for a living was a '39 Zephyr with an Aston Martin Vanquish V12 in it. I spent several weeks trying to track down a random but persistent misfire. I talked with all the tech support I had access to, from the ECU and ignition manufacturers on down. Turns out the problem was that the coil trigger wires were too close to the coil power wires coming out of the ignition boxes, and the stray EMF was causing the coils to randomly fire. Two wires too close together by an inch, nearly a months worth of lost time.

There's always stupid little stuff too. A quick exhaust gasket replacement + a broken bolt can turn a 30 minute job into an all day affair. In this industry hard deadlines just can't work effectively.