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    Are we having something similar to a "VOI" in 2014?

    Since moving back to Hawaii over six years ago, we have missed a few VOIs. I was actually looking forward to 2014 and attending with the VCA, but I will not be renewing my membership there. So the question is, are we having one of our own? If so would it be in the same time frame (late September or early October)?
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    Yes, we will be having a "VOI" type of an event. Planning is going on right now. It will be something new and fresh.

    Still working on the dates. We will let everyone know as soon as we can. We realize that people need to get their vacation schedules in order at the beginning of the year.

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    we need to have a contest to work on a new name, with a new organization.

    Bruce

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    I have always liked Viper "OWNERS" Invitational because it puts the emphasis on what's important, THE CAR, not these clubs.

    There is no VOA, VCA without the car. There should always be a national level event where if you are an owner of the platform you are welcome regardless of clubs, politics, or an owner just not wanting to pay into a local or national chapter.

    I say keep it called VOI, or something similar.

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    DRIVE= DRIve Viper Event

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    We want every Viper owner to be there. Well, maybe there are a couple of owners I'd rather not see. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonprowler View Post
    We want every Viper owner to be there. Well, maybe there are a couple of owners I'd rather not see. LOL
    LOL Definitely in agreement.

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    Yes, VOI was always intended to be an all-inclusive event. I don't see that changing.

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    I'd go if there was a non track option. Can't see spending 800 dollars a person like required for last year to go watch people race and eat for 3 days. And that didn't include hotel price. There should be staged pricing depending on events you want to do. I was going to come down just for the social aspect.

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    Agree should be ala cart so to speak.

    Quote Originally Posted by KNG SNKE View Post
    I'd go if there was a non track option. Can't see spending 800 dollars a person like required for last year to go watch people race and eat for 3 days. And that didn't include hotel price. There should be staged pricing depending on events you want to do. I was going to come down just for the social aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLATOUT View Post
    Agree should be ala cart so to speak.
    I was definitely up for going this year, definitely was excited. I'm from Virginia Beach so it was a short trip for me as well and I could have taken leave. I just couldn't justify spending 800 bucks to come hang out. And another 800 to bring the wife.

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    Ultimately the price point was what stopped me from going to the last one. Like others I could not justify the cost of the event when I would not be tracking my car, or my wife. Plus we do not need 2 goodie bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72hemi View Post
    Ultimately the price point was what stopped me from going to the last one. Like others I could not justify the cost of the event when I would not be tracking my car, or my wife. Plus we do not need 2 goodie bags.
    John, good to hear you won't be tracking your wife.

    She wouldn't be to happy about that, pretty sure

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    Checkbox pricing for track events, 100% agree. That said, we owners need to be willing to prepay, and early, to allow the organizers to accurately scale these "a la carte" driving events.

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    LOL thanks Rich. and for the record my wife will not be tracking my Viper.

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    Any update on this? Location, dates?

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    Viper Owners Association Invitational VOAI

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    I tried that but didn't like the ring to it

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    Keeping in mind that ,this club at the present time is smaller than what was with the other club and that most posts I noticed have members looking to have the event close to them, an idea that could come to play would be to make 2 VOI type events that could be spread out among the whole regional area(northern and southern) of the VOA thus allowing more regions to be "closer" and accommodating more members. The cost issue could also be solved with that idea as more will attend and less costs involved with two smaller events instead of the large costs associated with a large event and less attendance because of costs and distance. I know that distance and cost were the two big hurdles most found when deciding on attending last years events and this might be a solution that could help the cause.

    Just a thought that could be discussed among the Board.

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    How about VIPERFEST

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    Give it a little time guys.

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    There could be a strong compromise with those that want to track their cars and those that do not. When VOI was done in Salt Lake City quite a few of us pushed for a real track day/days ( similar to
    past years with Viper Days ) , and we met a wall of resistance. I pushed for a day right after the event and found out later Jon Brobst was working towards a similar idea. No one wanted to
    work with anyone as they thought it would detract from the event -- which made no sense to those of us wanting a chance to wheel around Miller Motorsports Park as many previous VOIs had a
    Viper Days event tied to the Invitational. Thankfully Cindi Lux realized there was a real need and she persuaded the track to open things up to those that wanted to pay for a Thursday afternoon of
    real track time. I know the approximately 40-50 of us that got to run the track at speed were extremely grateful to Cindi as all the manueverings of myself or Jon B. proved fruitless.

    Take those ideas to a new Viper Festival and a second portion of the entry fee could be for those who really want to do some serious track time. It could easily be broken down into Advanced and
    Beginner groups ,with many of the folks in the Advanced Group likely offering to instruct -- save even more than having to hire an outside group and there are plenty of Viper Owners out there who
    are currently doing this ( instructing) with various racing/track groups.

    Those that did want to do parade laps in their Viper would miss out, but the individuals that wanted to test their skill would actually have a greater chance to enjoy the car. The only parameter
    I would suggest would be track selection -- need to be fairly safe . Good examples would be a track like Miller Motorsports , Texas Motorsport Ranch, Hi Plains Raceway, Thunderhill, and others will
    reasonable run-off.

    Just a suggestion ,but really should meet the desires of both groups and the ability to actually track your Viper may actually find more folks taking their cars to the festivities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    There could be a strong compromise with those that want to track their cars and those that do not. When VOI was done in Salt Lake City quite a few of us pushed for a real track day/days ( similar to
    past years with Viper Days ) , and we met a wall of resistance. I pushed for a day right after the event and found out later Jon Brobst was working towards a similar idea. No one wanted to
    work with anyone as they thought it would detract from the event -- which made no sense to those of us wanting a chance to wheel around Miller Motorsports Park as many previous VOIs had a
    Viper Days event tied to the Invitational. Thankfully Cindi Lux realized there was a real need and she persuaded the track to open things up to those that wanted to pay for a Thursday afternoon of
    real track time. I know the approximately 40-50 of us that got to run the track at speed were extremely grateful to Cindi as all the manueverings of myself or Jon B. proved fruitless.

    Take those ideas to a new Viper Festival and a second portion of the entry fee could be for those who really want to do some serious track time. It could easily be broken down into Advanced and
    Beginner groups ,with many of the folks in the Advanced Group likely offering to instruct -- save even more than having to hire an outside group and there are plenty of Viper Owners out there who
    are currently doing this ( instructing) with various racing/track groups.

    Those that did want to do parade laps in their Viper would miss out, but the individuals that wanted to test their skill would actually have a greater chance to enjoy the car. The only parameter
    I would suggest would be track selection -- need to be fairly safe . Good examples would be a track like Miller Motorsports , Texas Motorsport Ranch, Hi Plains Raceway, Thunderhill, and others will
    reasonable run-off.

    Just a suggestion ,but really should meet the desires of both groups and the ability to actually track your Viper may actually find more folks taking their cars to the festivities?
    Couldn't agree more!
    I didn't make the last VOI because I was at the race track. From what I've heard from people who did go, the track portion wasn't very good. Just to clarify, people who actually tracking their cars on a regular basis said this. Those that don't, thought the track time was great.
    I personally have no desire to go out on the track if I've got to drive like it's my first time on a track. Multiple groups (probably 3) are needed. One for people with competition licenses (or at least past competition experience, or a LOT of track experience), one for people who are pretty comfortable on the track and have a least a few days under their belts, and one for beginners. I don't have a problem with requiring a point in the top group (most of us will be in street cars and no sense dive-bombing a corner and causing an issue), but that should be about the only rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    There could be a strong compromise with those that want to track their cars and those that do not. When VOI was done in Salt Lake City quite a few of us pushed for a real track day/days ( similar to
    past years with Viper Days ) , and we met a wall of resistance. I pushed for a day right after the event and found out later Jon Brobst was working towards a similar idea. No one wanted to
    work with anyone as they thought it would detract from the event -- which made no sense to those of us wanting a chance to wheel around Miller Motorsports Park as many previous VOIs had a
    Viper Days event tied to the Invitational. Thankfully Cindi Lux realized there was a real need and she persuaded the track to open things up to those that wanted to pay for a Thursday afternoon of
    real track time. I know the approximately 40-50 of us that got to run the track at speed were extremely grateful to Cindi as all the manueverings of myself or Jon B. proved fruitless.

    Take those ideas to a new Viper Festival and a second portion of the entry fee could be for those who really want to do some serious track time. It could easily be broken down into Advanced and
    Beginner groups ,with many of the folks in the Advanced Group likely offering to instruct -- save even more than having to hire an outside group and there are plenty of Viper Owners out there who
    are currently doing this ( instructing) with various racing/track groups.

    Those that did want to do parade laps in their Viper would miss out, but the individuals that wanted to test their skill would actually have a greater chance to enjoy the car. The only parameter
    I would suggest would be track selection -- need to be fairly safe . Good examples would be a track like Miller Motorsports , Texas Motorsport Ranch, Hi Plains Raceway, Thunderhill, and others will
    reasonable run-off.

    Just a suggestion ,but really should meet the desires of both groups and the ability to actually track your Viper may actually find more folks taking their cars to the festivities?
    Bill my first VOI as an owner was in Salt Lake City. Prior year to that I had been running several NARRA events, and events at our home track Hallett. Dad and I's original plan was to ship both cars to Salt Lake just for the opportunity to run the NARRA event while at VOI. How many opportunities does one get to run at one of the top premier tracks in the US at speed, especially one that is as far away from us as that one? Frankly I was drooling at that opportunity, then to find out that NARRA dropped the Viper Days portion out and just run the competition series from Miller. Needless to say I was pissed, I knew about the fight that you and Jon B were going through to re-open those discussions. I was very disappointed at how the leadership with the current regime at VCA handled the issue. Dad and I chose to leave my car at home and just take the 03 for that reason.

    Plus when Marv Spatz DQ'd my autocross run I wasn't to happy.




    Quote Originally Posted by TowDawg View Post
    Couldn't agree more!
    I didn't make the last VOI because I was at the race track. From what I've heard from people who did go, the track portion wasn't very good. Just to clarify, people who actually tracking their cars on a regular basis said this. Those that don't, thought the track time was great.
    I personally have no desire to go out on the track if I've got to drive like it's my first time on a track. Multiple groups (probably 3) are needed. One for people with competition licenses (or at least past competition experience, or a LOT of track experience), one for people who are pretty comfortable on the track and have a least a few days under their belts, and one for beginners. I don't have a problem with requiring a point in the top group (most of us will be in street cars and no sense dive-bombing a corner and causing an issue), but that should be about the only rule.
    We didn't take a car due to this. I would have been seriously disappointed to drag a car out there for the "track day"... Would have been a serious waste of money.

    One good thing that came from the Charlotte VOI was Mark Jorgensen and I took the WORLD RECORD for 2 man pit stop at the simulator in the NASCAR Hall of fame.

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    I wonder how it will all work out with a VOI event and the VCA saying they are having one too? Will be interesting to see who has the biggest turn out. Im all for the VOI event......


 
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