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    1992 Viper, Supposedly Belonged to Carroll Shelby

    A friend of mine asked me about a neighbor's son's car. As I understand it, it's a 92 Viper with 9600 miles, number 79 that once belonged to Shelby.

    I haven't spoken to the owner personally, but he wants cash offers. Apparently he's looking for big money.

    I'm not in the market (as much as I'd like another) but I'm wondering how it could be documented. Seems to me that Shelby's Viper would be a lower number, or still in the hands of the Shelby company.

    I'm guessing it'll need head gaskets and tires....and I also wonder if a '92 with Shelby history is worth a huge premium?

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    It wouldn't be hard to prove. Owner history would love st him as owners. PM me the VIN and I'll get you the info.

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    Jon B might know. I don't recall him having a 92. I do recall him and Fitzgerald Dodge doing a limited edition of Shelby Vipers back in the day.

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    I didn't recall any Fitzgerald Vipers in '92...but I could be wrong.

    I have no further info, and since I'm not in the position to buy it...I'd rather stay out of the middle. Long story better told in PM.

    Granger...all I know that could get us close to a VIN is that it's #79. Presumably, 1B3BR65E3NV100079?

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    Anything Shelby touched turned to gold.. I hope it works out for the guy.

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    Vehicle: 1992 Dodge Viper RT/10 (1B3BR65E9NV100079)

    Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
    06/30/2006 PERTH AMBOY, NJ
    1,860
    Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS RED)
    VEHICLE REPORTED TO BE UNDER WARRANTY
    12/13/2006 EDISON, NJ
    1,874
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:ED200634700000419)
    12/31/2006 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2009 NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2010 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2011 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    09/10/2012 PA
    3,021
    Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
    09/25/2012 LAKEWOOD, NJ
    3,020
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #A201226900001281)
    10/29/2012 KINGSTON, PA
    3,021
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    12/19/2012 MARCUS HOOK, PA
    3,026
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281)
    REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    01/18/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    05/08/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    This Vehicle's Glossary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granger73 View Post
    Vehicle: 1992 Dodge Viper RT/10 (1B3BR65E9NV100079)

    Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
    06/30/2006 PERTH AMBOY, NJ
    1,860
    Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS RED)
    VEHICLE REPORTED TO BE UNDER WARRANTY
    12/13/2006 EDISON, NJ
    1,874
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:ED200634700000419)
    12/31/2006 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2009 NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2010 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2011 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    09/10/2012 PA
    3,021
    Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
    09/25/2012 LAKEWOOD, NJ
    3,020
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #A201226900001281)
    10/29/2012 KINGSTON, PA
    3,021
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    12/19/2012 MARCUS HOOK, PA
    3,026
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281)
    REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    01/18/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    05/08/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    This Vehicle's Glossary
    Well looks like the owner is full of shit..Carol Shelby never lived in Edison NJ...LOL

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    Very interesting...thanks for the update!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granger73 View Post
    Vehicle: 1992 Dodge Viper RT/10 (1B3BR65E9NV100079)

    Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
    06/30/2006 PERTH AMBOY, NJ
    1,860
    Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS RED)
    VEHICLE REPORTED TO BE UNDER WARRANTY
    12/13/2006 EDISON, NJ
    1,874
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:ED200634700000419)
    12/31/2006 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2009 NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2010 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    12/31/2011 EDISON, NJ

    Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    09/10/2012 PA
    3,021
    Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
    09/25/2012 LAKEWOOD, NJ
    3,020
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #A201226900001281)
    10/29/2012 KINGSTON, PA
    3,021
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    12/19/2012 MARCUS HOOK, PA
    3,026
    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281)
    REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
    01/18/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    05/08/2013 MARCUS HOOK, PA

    Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:71360281) (Lien Reported)
    This Vehicle's Glossary
    That is crazy, Marcus Hook is close to me. Not a place I would want to drive a Viper through either.

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    Can't really be sure of provenance. Wasnt registered until 2006, so a lot of history missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granger73 View Post
    Can't really be sure of provenance. Wasnt registered until 2006, so a lot of history missing.
    I just realized that. It was registered in 2006 with 1800 miles on it. So the only explanation would be that someone used a dealer or manufacturer plate all those years in between..Still if you are claiming Carol Shelby owned this car, you would need to have something rock solid to back it up if that is your selling point..I highly doubt a car owned by Shelby would find its way to a dealer in Edison then a shitty dealer auction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajerseyviper View Post
    I just realized that. It was registered in 2006 with 1800 miles on it. So the only explanation would be that someone used a dealer or manufacturer plate all those years in between..Still if you are claiming Carol Shelby owned this car, you would need to have something rock solid to back it up if that is your selling point..I highly doubt a car owned by Shelby would find its way to a dealer in Edison then a shitty dealer auction.
    You're right. You would really need some hard evidence to support that claim. As an aside, there are still over 20 1992 cars that have yet to be registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granger73 View Post
    You're right. You would really need some hard evidence to support that claim. As an aside, there are still over 20 1992 cars that have yet to be registered.
    Im guessing sitting in storage somewhere or in a collection...Any idea how many 1992 have been salvaged out and destroyed? But if you're going to make a claim that someone as influential and crucial to the auto industry as Carol Shelby owned this car, you better have some HARD documentation..Seeing how Carol Shelby designed the 1992 Viper it would be ridiculous to suggest he got vin#79 out of the batch.... If I design a car, Im taking #1 and #2 off the assembly line for myself..
    Last edited by Dajerseyviper; 12-16-2014 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajerseyviper View Post
    .Seeing how Carol Shelby designed the 1992 Viper
    I bet Tom Gale and Roy Sjoberg and others would have something to say about that representation, LOL !

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    So weird to see Perth Amboy and Edison. Didn't think there were any Vipers over there. LOL

    --RS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schen View Post
    So weird to see Perth Amboy and Edison. Didn't think there were any Vipers over there. LOL

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    just thought of someone IN nj who might have owned it. I cant remember his name, he owned a handful of vipers, lived in boonton maybe. Had a weird name. He owned at least one exotic viper along with his GTSR
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    Quote Originally Posted by plumcrazy View Post
    just thought of someone IN nj who might have owned it. I cant remember his name, he owned a handful of vipers, lived in boonton maybe. Had a weird name. He owned at least one exotic viper along with his GTSR
    Plum, in the mid 90's I lived in Wayne and worked at Chrysler Financial. the local dealer in Boonton had a new 92 that the guys in my office said we had turned down $90K in '92. Think he finally sold it in 95 for mid-50's. Maybe it stayed local?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plumcrazy View Post
    just thought of someone IN nj who might have owned it. I cant remember his name, he owned a handful of vipers, lived in boonton maybe. Had a weird name. He owned at least one exotic viper along with his GTSR
    Adel? He was the only one I know that had a GTS-R but could have sworn Joe Houss told me his was a replica. He's got the last B/W Gen V now. I'll ask Bobby, maybe he knows. Owned Vipers are rare in my neck of the woods, but I've had plenty come through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schen View Post
    Adel? He was the only one I know that had a GTS-R but could have sworn Joe Houss told me his was a replica. He's got the last B/W Gen V now. I'll ask Bobby, maybe he knows. Owned Vipers are rare in my neck of the woods, but I've had plenty come through.

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    yup, thats him.
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    Iacocca has number one, and Lutz got #2, which is now owned by a VOA member.

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    if it can be proved shelby owned it, thats a big dollar car if clean
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    Maybe it's the one Carroll Shelby leaned/sat on.
    If it still has his butt print on it, that might make it more valuable to a certain niche of collector.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZTVR View Post
    Maybe it's the one Carroll Shelby leaned/sat on.
    If it still has his butt print on it, that might make it more valuable to a certain niche of collector.


    Only Carroll Shelby can make cuffed jeans,black socks and white sneakers look good....Legend...

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    Chrysler has all the info available. Any 92 owner can email them (customerassist@chrysler.com) and they will provide the MDH and the selling dealer. It's available. Can't see why the club can't get the info. It's available for to Viper owners, not just 92's. Problem is no "GAS" at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granger73 View Post
    Chrysler has all the info available. Any 92 owner can email them (customerassist@chrysler.com) and they will provide the MDH and the selling dealer. It's available. Can't see why the club can't get the info. It's available for to Viper owners, not just 92's. Problem is no "GAS" at the top.
    gas at the top ?
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