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    I am hopeful that the Anodized Carbon GTS-TA will be very collectable, being one of only 10 cars it should. When people talk TA's they always seem to forget about these 10 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce H. View Post
    The question was about collectibility, not whether a TA was a good investment...that's two completely different things.
    I would add that collectability is typically the antithesis of drivability and that while you can collect anything, collectability implies a degree of intrinsic value be it monetary or sentimental or otherwise. The measure of a car's collectability is typically monetary so while there is a difference between collectability and investment grade, the two are directly related. I fully agree with the larger point that given the time value of money coupled with the cost of ownership over say 20 years makes most somewhat "collectible cars" NOT a very good investment. The example of the 94 Viper I posted is a perfect example of a car that is somewhat collectible and has retained some value but was clearly not a great investment.

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    14 White TA... duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce H. View Post
    Or maybe the TA's features and performance is what Viper buyers wanted all along, with the question being what will happen to the SRT and GTS models in the future.

    I think Dodge is answering that with the GT package
    . With the SRT model you can't have the better riding electronic suspension, and the flexibility of the 5 way stability control, the GTS added those and more luxury features and cost than many wanted, and along comes the GT that bridges the price vs features divide rather nicely...and eliminates the need for the SRT and GTS I think.

    The TA starts with the electronic dampers and 5 way stability control and adds comprehensive performance upgrades for those who like to do track days more often, more aggressively, or who simply want the higher performance version for their street use.

    The ACR concept is an entirely different animal as it's appearance is very different, and not to everyone's taste. It will look too much like a race car for many buyers, trading the elegant look of other models for a very in your face personality that is way over the top for most I bet. Owners on this forum are far more into these cars than the average high performance car buyer, and while we have a keen appreciation for the ACR's of the past, and their accomplishments, there isn't even a remote chance that the ACR would make much of a dent in sales of other models after a small and rabid group of us here jump on it initially, IMO.

    Perhaps the limited edition TA needs to disappear along with the SRT and GTS models, completely replaced by a Viper GT that comes equipped with all of the most desirable features from the departing 3 versions. A more sophisticated damper system and upgraded brakes on all would allow for the stiffened suspension of the TA to ride and perform even better than the GTS and TA. The best performing Viper model that they can make to appeal for the street is where the sales will be, and I don't think it will be an ACR.
    Well put Bruce. I feel the GT model with TA refinements and an ACR would be more than enough for any enthusiast. Price then 15-20K apart and voila, you have a simple solution that will fill anyone's appetite for a Viper


 
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