Gen v carbon brakes almost ready

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Here is a first look at the carbon brake package I am working on for the Gen V Viper.
I should have the first set on my car for the NARRA event at Sebring November 21st -23rd.
They will be 15" front and rear using the factory calibers.
Thanks
Wayne

[Space Truckin]

Sweet!

[XSnake]

Require 19" front wheel? I'll check these out at Sebring

[TooBlue]

Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

[XSnake]

Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

Rear suspension is different on Gen V IIRC

[Simms]

Sweet! More options.

[Timnineside]

Probably $1,000 shipped for all for rotors right? .

[mnc2886]

Brakes look great!

On a side note, please do the carbon interior!!! PLEASE!!!!

[Simms]

Brakes look great!

On a side note, please do the carbon interior!!! PLEASE!!!!

And some valve/coil covers.

[TooBlue]

Rear suspension is different on Gen V IIRC

Gotcha'.

I am assuming these are full floating rotors. If that's the case. the rotor would ride on the wheel hub bearing.
Does any one know if the Gen 5 wheel hubs are different than Gen 4?

Sorry for going a little off topic. This would be a big improvement on my Gen 4 track car. Thx

[XSnake]

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Gotcha'.

I am assuming these are full floating rotors. If that's the case. the rotor would ride on the wheel hub bearing.
Does any one know if the Gen 5 wheel hubs are different than Gen 4?

Sorry for going a little off topic. This would be a big improvement on my Gen 4 track car. Thx

The caliper sits towards the front of the car on the Gen 4 and for the Gen 5 they moved it to the rear. Slipping the rotor onto the hub isn't going to be the issue, moving the caliper out to allow for the bigger rotor probably will be. I'm guessing the brackets that they have developed for the G5 to allow this won't work on the G4 due to the changed location. If they develop brackets for the G4 then I see no reason they couldn't be used. Now, if they are using a stock sized rear rotor just in ceramic then this would work without any issues IMO. From the pic, they have the front figured out and that should work on either Gen. But, unless you are doing enduros there's not a huge advantage in going to CC's.

[TooBlue]

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The caliper sits towards the front of the car on the Gen 4 and for the Gen 5 they moved it to the rear. Slipping the rotor onto the hub isn't going to be the issue, moving the caliper out to allow for the bigger rotor probably will be. I'm guessing the brackets that they have developed for the G5 to allow this won't work on the G4 due to the changed location. If they develop brackets for the G4 then I see no reason they couldn't be used. Now, if they are using a stock sized rear rotor just in ceramic then this would work without any issues IMO. From the pic, they have the front figured out and that should work on either Gen. But, unless you are doing enduros there's not a huge advantage in going to CC's.

Thanks. Makes sense.

One of the guys I track with has a carbon edition Z06 with the CC brakes. We go to basically the same number of events and usually run within a second or so
wherever we go. Last year I went through 3 sets of rotors compared to his one set not to mention they ran much cooler.
I realize driving styles are different but like I said, our lap times are very similar.

Looking forward to seeing if they will work.

Looks good for the Gen 5 guys. Unfortunately I'm not one...... YET

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Require 19" front wheel? I'll check these out at Sebring

No
This set up will work with your stock wheels
I am also planing to do a set with 6 piston front calipers and then 15.5" front rotors they will require 19" wheels

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Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

I plan on doing them for the Gen 4 next

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Probably $1,000 shipped for all for rotors right? .

I am hoping to retail them for under $12,000.00

[bluesrt]

how much for wholesale?

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

how much for wholesale?

wont know till i'm done
but these parts are expensive

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Since Wayne is sponsoring the Official Pace Car for NARRA-Sebring, Ill be fortunate to test these on the car! Dont get too close to me on the parade laps......

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Since Wayne is sponsoring the Official Pace Car for NARRA-Sebring, Ill be fortunate to test these on the car! Dont get too close to me on the parade laps......

yes you will
I'm looking forward to it

[XSnake]

Thanks. Makes sense.

One of the guys I track with has a carbon edition Z06 with the CC brakes. We go to basically the same number of events and usually run within a second or so
wherever we go. Last year I went through 3 sets of rotors compared to his one set not to mention they ran much cooler.
I realize driving styles are different but like I said, our lap times are very similar.

You are probably still cheaper replacing 3 sets of steels to 1 set of ceramics.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

You are probably still cheaper replacing 3 sets of steels to 1 set of ceramics.

advantages are no brake dust and they will probably last the life of the car or around 2500 hard miles on the track
replacement cost of the rotors is around $1500.00 each and pads are $400.00
most of the expense is in the custom hats, brackets and modifying the park brake
Thanks
Wayne

[C-Note]

Don't carbon brakes run a lot hotter than steel brakes? Will all of the factory seals and so on in the original calipers hold up to the heat?

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Don't carbon brakes run a lot hotter than steel brakes? Will all of the factory seals and so on in the original calipers hold up to the heat?

In track use, and depending on pads, YES. They can run much hotter in some situations. So a big-brake-package / calipers built around CC rotors will likely have titanium pistons and/or vented pistons, and upgraded boots-seals. and CERTAINLY have SS lines, not rubber!

At a minimum, if you switch to CC rotors in standard SRT calipers, you should consider Titanium Backing Plates on your pads for ADVANCED track use with aggressive pads, to help protect OE boots-seals-pistons.

WAYNE: Id even "SPONSOR" a set of Titanium Backing Plates for the PartsRack Grand Prix Official Pace Car.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

In track use, and depending on pads, YES. So a big-brake-package / calipers built around CC rotors will likely have titanium pistons and upgraded boots-seals.

At a minimum, if you switch to CC rotors in standard SRT calipers, you should consider Titanium Backing Plates on your pads for track use, to help protect OE boots-seals-pistons.

WAYNE: Id even "SPONSOR" a set of Titanium Backing Plates for the PartsRack Grand Prix Official Pace Car.

Sounds like a great idea Thanks John

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Rear brakes are almost done


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[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Sounds like a great idea Thanks Jon

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