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  1. #151
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    It appears there are 2 groups of folks here...each with their own definition of "club".

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRon View Post
    It appears there are 2 groups of folks here...each with their own definition of "club".
    I count four groups that have defined a "club" in this thread so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACRucrazy View Post
    No shit. The attitude from some of the leaders here is totally unwelcoming.
    Totally.

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    Sort of off topic, but since the issue of members vs enthusiasts has been brought up.


    I was a member of the old club (and didnt like how it was managed btw). I have held off joining the new club for 2 reasons.


    First, i just wanted see if things were really going to be any different with the new one. So far, honestly i am just not totally convinced yet. Not saying it isnt better, just that i am not yet fully convinced of it.

    Secondly, i moved and i havent seen the new club (or the old one for that matter) get together and really do anything where i live now (Nashville) so why join?

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    Hi guys.

    We put the classified ad situation / limitation on the agenda for the next board meeting. Usually try to have first week of each month. A "tad" tied up with Homecoming right now and looking forward to a great event, but we can try to resolve this business at our next meeting.

    Fair enough?

    And we DO try to prioritize the value and the treatment of "members". Members should definitely have some benefits not available to non-members. It doesn't' downplay the forum contribution of non-members, but were working hard here to provide real value: pay for a website, server, hosting, upgrades, insurance for member events (not just a nice to have but a requirement to rent tracks / venues), publish a magazine, put together national quality events, get some merchandise together, work with sponsors to provide discounts, etc. That stuff costs money - thus membership fees.

    So -if we are prioritizing maximizing the value of folks who are "members", that's a stigma I can live with. Actually, I thought the initial gripe was that we were prioritizing sponsors over members - but now it's that we don't value the non-member forum contributor enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janni View Post
    So -if we are prioritizing maximizing the value of folks who are "members", that's a stigma I can live with. Actually, I thought the initial gripe was that we were prioritizing sponsors over members - but now it's that we don't value the non-member forum contributor enough?
    Yep. Because in discussing whether classified ads should be free or not I stated I'm not concerned, or give two deuces, about the feelings of non-members paying for classified ads which I think should be a member benefit (i.e. free for members, not free for everyone else). A couple of winners here spun that into the club doesn't value enthusiasts, the leadership is not welcoming, etc. Tears were wept, tissue sales went up and counseling sessions ensued. The mass suicides seemed to stop for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janni View Post
    Actually, I thought the initial gripe was that we were prioritizing sponsors over members
    I think it started out in this manner but evolved to include not just club members but anyone visiting this forum be it a club member, forum member, enthusiast, guest or Phil's gynecologist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperTony View Post
    ... A couple of winners here spun that into the club doesn't value enthusiasts, the leadership is not welcoming, etc. Tears were wept, tissue sales went up and counseling sessions ensued. The mass suicides seemed to stop for now.
    pretty much sums it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACRucrazy View Post

    Like I said, the Viper forums are the ONLY forums I have ever been on that have required its active members to PAY to sell items.
    Not fair to compare this forum with other non-paid-membership forums. How many other car clubs do you pay to be a member of? Are those sites as busy as this one? Post links. Paid membership should have some benefits online, period. Free public forums operate on a different strategy, they want massive daily pageviews for their ads. Free classifieds does that. This site doesn't need that, they have paid members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperTony View Post
    Yep. Because in discussing whether classified ads should be free or not I stated I'm not concerned, or give two deuces, about the feelings of non-members paying for classified ads which I think should be a member benefit (i.e. free for members, not free for everyone else). A couple of winners here spun that into the club doesn't value enthusiasts, the leadership is not welcoming, etc. Tears were wept, tissue sales went up and counseling sessions ensued. The mass suicides seemed to stop for now.



    I think it started out in this manner but evolved to include not just club members but anyone visiting this forum be it a club member, forum member, enthusiast, guest or Phil's gynecologist.
    Lol. Your arrogent as fuck, but I actually agree with your last post.

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    dont be bringing my gyno into this discussion LOL
    THE IGNORE FEATURE WORKS, TRY IT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Lol. Your arrogent as fuck, but I actually agree with your last post.
    Arrogant? No. If I come across that way that's not my intention. Sarcastic? Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperTony View Post
    Arrogant? No. If I come across that way that's not my intention. Sarcastic? Absolutely.
    Sarcasm is a proper form of communication only when delivered the proper way, which gets lost on the internet. Ask Plum's Gynecologist , she's a doctor.

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    I'm maxed out on my listings. Should I cry and bitch here or should I create another thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTGTS View Post
    I'm maxed out on my listings. Should I cry and bitch here or should I create another thread?
    New thread

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    lol.
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    The rep system sucks. So many to REP, yet I still get "you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to plumcrazy again."



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    Quote Originally Posted by 99RT10 View Post
    The rep system sucks. So many to REP, yet I still get "you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to plumcrazy again."


    Just like the other site lol. Plumdawg gets around.

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    and we all know the value in rep...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLATOUT View Post
    Just like the other site lol. Plumdawg gets around.
    Just tried to rep you too, but.............."you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FLATOUT again."

    I think the Alley lets you re-rep after 5 or 6. Here it seems like 15.

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    You are limited to 3 reps as a member. Sponsors get unlimited reps.






    too soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janni View Post
    You are limited to 3 reps as a member. Sponsors get unlimited reps.






    too soon?
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janni View Post
    You are limited to 3 reps as a member. Sponsors get unlimited reps.






    too soon?
    OK, that was funny right there............

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    Quote Originally Posted by plumcrazy View Post
    dont be bringing my gyno into this discussion LOL
    This guy?



    I agree... leave him out of it

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    What the hell is that metal contraption? Holy crap, you wouldn't get me anywhere near that or that anywhere near me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    What the hell is that metal contraption? Holy crap, you wouldn't get me anywhere near that or that anywhere near me!
    Here if we put a hat and some eye balls on it do you feel safer?



 
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