Gen V ACR?? When is it coming?

[viperprowler1]

I love my 2008 ACR Hard Core Edition. Saw photos of a potential Gen V ACR in one of the auto mags in the last year or so. When will there be a Gen V ACR???? Or is the T/A all that there will be?

[Shooter]

I think they have about 20 more Special Edition colors to come out with 1st.

[Viper vince]

They cannot sell the 2013's or the 2014's what makes you think they would come out with an ACR.

[KickAsp]

They cannot sell the 2013's or the 2014's what makes you think they would come out with an ACR.

Unfortunately this is true. I think vert is more likely as it may appeal to more potential buyers, but I am seriously questioning future of Viper. With more regs coming with respect to fuel efficiency, many manufacture ' s going to smaller displacement and forced induction. Not sure if Dodge will make the investment to keep the Viper on track to complete ; with lackluster sales. Hope to see an ACR, but I scooped up my Gen V's while I was still able to get a big, nasty, naturally aspirated V10.

[VENOM V]

Ben Keating told me that Tomball has sold more Vipers in the last two months than ever before. My local dealer Normandin has also sold a good number of Vipers recently, and he's a small dealer. Viper sales have always been low volume, I think it's too early to say whether the program won't recover from their launch woes. Let's hope for the best. I suspect an ACR will come to market within a couple model years, but who knows.

[FLATOUT]

Yes Viper sales are up quite a bit from where they were.

[Viper vince]

You have to look at ROI (return on investment) with Ralph no longer in charge of SRT nobody knows.

[Wiperman]

The dealers are finally marking down the price of the cars also

[Bruce H.]

You have to look at ROI (return on investment) with Ralph no longer in charge of SRT nobody knows.

ROI requirements would be both significantly less, and improved, now that it's under the Dodge brand... and as their "halo" car. The change seems like an effective way to reduce a wide range of costs, improve marketing and promotional efforts, elevate Dodge as a performance brand, and to ensure the Viper's future. If Dodge approaches it like other's do with their halo models, we may see it become both a performance and technology showcase in the future. The Viper's prospects just don't look bad to me, and I'm sure experiencing one fully as an owner gives me that appreciation and confidence. Bring on the vert for an instant surge in sales, and incorporate an auto on the next Gen if it isn't feasible for the current one!

[bluesrt]

a acr will be bumping 175k range-

[Policy Limits]

You'd hafta be nuts to wait for a V ACR and buy new with all these great deals out there on 13's & 14's.

[Newport Viper]

You'd hafta be nuts to wait for a V ACR and buy new with all these great deals out there on 13's & 14's.

It would also help if the 2015 "refresh" (outside of the possible Vert) is "bolt on" upgradeable to the 13 & 14's (If you like it). This would help the "value" of the first two years.

[RSNAKE]

It would also help if the 2015 "refresh" (outside of the possible Vert) is "bolt on" upgradeable to the 13 & 14's (If you like it). This would help the "value" of the first two years.

Looking at the product plan that was announced, I think the 2015 refresh will happen in 2015 and will be a 2016 model year.

[SWEEN]

Looking at the product plan that was announced, I think the 2015 refresh will happen in 2015 and will be a 2016 model year.

Thats a good point. Its already June, you think they would of announced it if its for the 2015 model year.

[Coloviper]

Maybe they are waiting until they reveal details and solicit owner feedback on 2015 car to some Viper owners in Detroit next month.

I could see a future ACR getting the bare bones, hardcore treatment. Reduced weight, slight increase in HP, aero, upgrades, brake upgrades and fast new close ratio 8sp tranny varient of Hellcat. I know they said it doesn't fit but just not buying that argument. In the end, it would be the fastest and is a NA model of what Z06 was as new Z06 is superchargered which is against needs of long races, heat soak, etc.

Now the street car, if they want that to be the halo and grab headlines, market share, with the Hellcat coming in at 650 hp to 685 hp , the next Viper has to hit the 800 hp area. Now if a Blower fits, even if only at 5 psi, pretty easy to hit and should help with emissions.

Blower was just developed for Hellcat, small skunkworks team could have been also developing a blower for Viper which shares a lot of parts with the Hellcat. That would help lower the costs of development. As under the same brand now, willing to bet it could have been going on prior, we really do not know.

If the blower/hood fitment is the issue, then TT could solve that, maybe TT is what Dodge wants to be the upgrade for certain packages. Most performance SUVs are TT. SRT8 Jeep needs a performance kick, so does RAM. A lot of opportunity to share the cost on development now Viper is rolled back in the family.

[mnc2886]

a acr will be bumping 175k range-

If a $140k GTS won't sell at $140k, neither will a $175k ACR. I think SRT had learned not to do that again....I hope.

[Austin]

a acr will be bumping 175k range-

LOL. Say what!? No way. They cant even sell the loaded GTS's at their crazy price of 135-150k range. No way they would be able to sell a 175k Viper.

[ACRSNK]

$175K Viper...not if they want to sell any.

[VENOM V]

Gotta agree with you guys. I'd rather have the price for an ACR reasonable enough that you're not afraid to take it on the track. Of course it'll be more than a TA, but I'm hoping it'll be below $140K.

I suppose you could have options such as CCBs but please offer a hardcore model with just the basics for the weekend warrior: Start with the base car, add adjustable coilovers and big aero, maybe bigger brakes, Trofeo Rs or similar cutting edge tires and not much else. Otherwise my regular track car will always be the Camaro simply because I can afford to track it.

[cashcorn]

The Viper model specifically made for the track is already out.. imo

[VENOM V]

Yes, but we track rats are selfish. We want more - more wing, more suspension, more tire, we want it all! ;-)

[ViperSmith]

I can see it now. Base ACR for $120,000 that you can option to $180,000 and everyone complaining the ACR costs $180,000