[PICS] Gen V intake on my Gen IV ACR [PICS]

[Shooter]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, would the Gen5 intake, heads, or gen4 polished and ported heads, exhaust, mopar pcm, filters and tubes along with some fine tuning get you more than 650 RW?

I thought Dan or someone to that extent had corrected me in a thread ( I thought it was this one) that it is possible to get close to 700 RW with a gen 4 with those mods. Close is the word here.

maybe Dan can chime in and remind me or you may be able to help me in this regard.

I'm unsure of what you mean by "fine tuning". There are no tuning options for the Gen IV outside of Motec or Pectal right now. Both of those have a 10k+ price tag.

[FLATOUT]

Give Dan a call I'm sure he'd love to chat with you about it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, would the Gen5 intake, heads, or gen4 polished and ported heads, exhaust, mopar pcm, filters and tubes along with some fine tuning get you more than 650 RW?

I thought Dan or someone to that extent had corrected me in a thread ( I thought it was this one) that it is possible to get close to 700 RW with a gen 4 with those mods. Close is the word here.

maybe Dan can chime in and remind me or you may be able to help me in this regard.

[slitherv10]

I'm unsure of what you mean by "fine tuning". There are no tuning options for the Gen IV outside of Motec or Pectal right now. Both of those have a 10k+ price tag.

Wouldn't a Mopar PCM need to be tuned to the mods when installed?

[FLATOUT]

Wouldn't a Mopar PCM need to be tuned to the mods when installed?

Not possible.

[Rocket]

YET .... hopefully .... as some have discussed .... as I have heads, intake, and full exhaust work done on my 2009 with the Mopar PCM and am sure there is a lot left on the table if we could tune it.

Not possible.

[FLATOUT]

YET .... hopefully .... as some have discussed .... as I have heads, intake, and full exhaust work done on my 2009 with the Mopar PCM and am sure there is a lot left on the table if we could tune it.

True, was excited to see what SCT was releasing at SEMA but nothing materialized for the Gen IV V guys. HP Tuners is where I think our break through comes from.

[ACRucrazy]

It's crazy to think $2000 for intake/computer & $2000-$3000 in exhaust and you have 600 RWHP on a NA bolton car.

[Steve M]

True, was excited to see what SCT was releasing at SEMA but nothing materialized for the Gen IV V guys. HP Tuners is where I think our break through comes from.

From Bill over at the HPTuners forum:

Still working on the scanner, we've been working on getting 08 & possibly other Viper support added(we successfully were able to tune one already) by first quarter of next year. At this time thats about the only information I can offer.

I'm sure they are making sure there aren't any major bugs before a public release. Either way, I'll likely be buying another interface soon (I sold my old one when I sold my Camaro shortly after buying my Viper).

[FLATOUT]

It helps he owns an 08 Viper

[Steve M]

It helps he owns an 08 Viper

Keith owns an '06 that I think he converted to a Gen 4, but I'm not sure what exactly he did.

Either way, it's the only reason we might see some actual software...someone with the right skill set and a passion for Vipers decided to do it. I doubt it will be profitable for them, unfortunately.

[ACRucrazy]

[01sapphirebob]

If anyone is looking for a bolt on package I have a Gen V intake and Mopar PCM avail for the 08-10.
Both new. $1900 shipped in the lower 48.

Tempting. I still cant decide what i want to do.

[venomous08]

Tempting. I still cant decide what i want to do.

Same here, I am still not sure which way to go. Mopar Controller in hand just waiting to order the rest of the stuff...

[DreadLox]

I think I'm going to go for it. I already have the Mopar PCM, AR Headers, no cats, Corsa Catback, K&N Typhoon Air Intake, and a few other things non engine related. Ill definitly get before and after dyno pulls as well! Unfortunately it probably won't be until spring tho, my Viper is on a lift at a local Quaker Steak & Lube. Which is cool but now that it's winter I want to work on it lol. FLATOUT, awesome thread btw man, and thanks for all the help!

Also.......

It's crazy to think $2000 for intake/computer & $2000-$3000 in exhaust and you have 600 RWHP on a NA bolton car.

^What he said!

[FLATOUT]

^^^^^^^
Anytime, when you get around to installing it shoot me a pm and I'll get you my cell incase you get stuck

[FrgMstr]

I bought the Gen V intake that ACRucrazy had for sale. Went and did three pulls on the dyno last night so I can do a solid before and after comparison of the just the intake swap.

[CERVEZA]

I bought the Gen V intake that ACRucrazy had for sale. Went and did three pulls on the dyno last night so I can do a solid before and after comparison of the just the intake swap.

Would love to see the results!!! Thank you

[FrgMstr]

Found an inexpensive torque "wrench" that has great reviews at Amazon to do the install with.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RZ1D86/?tag=hardfocom-20

[IndyRon]

Found an inexpensive torque "wrench" that has great reviews at Amazon to do the install with.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RZ1D86/?tag=hardfocom-20

..Except, the intake is torqued to 95 in-lbs...

[FLATOUT]

Found an inexpensive torque "wrench" that has great reviews at Amazon to do the install with.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RZ1D86/?tag=hardfocom-20

..Except, the intake is torqued to 95 in-lbs...

That was my fault I sent him a PM saying 10 inch lbs. Sorry FrgMstr. What I meant to say was my micro wrench went down to 10ftlbs which is roughly 120 inch lbs.

[FrgMstr]

That was my fault I sent him a PM saying 10 inch lbs. Sorry FrgMstr. What I meant to say was my micro wrench went down to 10ftlbs which is roughly 120 inch lbs.

I thought that was tremendously low, but seeing you had done several, I was not in a position to call bull.

I bought this one to do the install when I was planning on PnP on the Stocker. Will be perfect.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...g=hardfocom-20

[FLATOUT]

Yeah terribly sorry about that. The one pictured above is the one I have. So 8ftlbs = 95 inch lbs I torqued mine to 10ftlbs or 125 inch lbs.

I thought that was tremendously low, but seeing you had done several, I was not in a position to call bull.

I bought this one to do the install when I was planning on PnP on the Stocker. Will be perfect.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...g=hardfocom-20

[DreadLox]

Haven't seem this thread in a while wanted to check in on the guys who did the swap and ask them how everything is holding up.

[FLATOUT]

Haven't seem this thread in a while wanted to check in on the guys who did the swap and ask them how everything is holding up.

Doing great, I did get a CEL last week from a vacuum leak. Found that the two tubes connecting just behind the throttle bodies were a little loose so I put some zip ties on them and all is well. If you have sluggish throttle response check these connections and make sure they are tight.

[FrgMstr]

Doing the swap right now. The manual says to pull the fuel line at the fuel rail. How the hell does this thing come off and does it need to?