HPTuners is releasing Beta tuning for the Gen 4s.!!!!!!

[Derek Short]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!

Just in time for my new ACR that just arrived!

[Synfull]

What hardware / software do you need to use this?

[VRYALT3R3D]

Great news!!!

There's still no ETA on the race ECU either. I don't get what they're doing at all...

MOPAR continues to drop the ball. MOPAR is terribly slow in releasing parts.

[Revolution]

Bingo can't wait

[Getnlwr]

Damn, about time!

[Mbccenter]

And I just purchased a mopar ECU a couple days ago.... Mike you are late with the info.

[Steve M]

What hardware / software do you need to use this?

You would need an HPTuners interface (standard or pro - I'd highly recommend the pro since it gives you the option to bring in multiple 0-5V sensors (like a wideband O2) and merge the data with what comes off the OBD-2 port) and their software, which includes an editor and scanner. That's it.

Not sure how many credits they will charge for this one, but you get 8 credits with a new purchase.

[TooBlue]

And I just purchased a mopar ECU a couple days ago.... Mike you are late with the info.

I will have another one I can sell you if you need it....

[Revolution]

Any eta for the throttle relearn to be added to the software?

[FLATOUT]

Any eta for the throttle relearn to be added to the software?

He said in a weeks time on the website.

[Revolution]

Thanks been so busy lately!

[TooBlue]

He said in a weeks time on the website.

I also saw on the website that this new tuning system will NOT work on badass looking black Gen 5 TAs.......

[Back In Black]

I don't think I am not selling mine anytime soon. Nothing until I have proof and dyno numbers.

Definitely good to have a spare.

[TooBlue]

Definitely good to have a spare.

I definitely agree. We have had our hopes up before only to be disappointed.



Could be available before Hastings. Maybe it will help me finally get around you....

[FLATOUT]

Yes my several boxes of mods just took another turn towards untimely installs lol. I mean seriously now I will want to wait for the Gen V software to emerge instead of buying the new Mopar Race ECU for the Gen V. What a cluster lol.

I also saw on the website that this new tuning system will NOT work on badass looking black Gen 5 TAs.......

[Viper Specialty]

It sounds to me like this may be a bit different than what people are thinking. While this is the ability to "tune" the G4 PCM, it is a custom shell OS, not based on the OE programming entirely. It may be in part, however. This means that you will have to tune from a blank sheet, much like a Stand-Alone operates. The plus side is that I expect the Bus Systems to stay in tact and it will operate without any physical modifications, the downside is that it will not have the adaptability and expandability of a true Stand-Alone, and simple changes are not going to be simple. I saw this coming a while back, its one of the reasons we stalled our G4 ECU work. After all, if you can write the whole operating system, an OEM ECU is little more than a "Viper Specific Stand-Alone". The capability discovery of the Viper hardware will dictate the direction I take on the ECU we were working on a while back.

I could be off base, the post is a bit fuzzy to say the least.

Either way, this will surely start to bump the G4 market, and make the G5 market take notice as they wait patiently.

[Steve M]

I don't get the impression that we'll be starting with a blank sheet in this case, at least not based on the screen captures Keith has shown. It does seem to be a bit convoluted, but I don't think you'll be needing to populate timing tables and the like...that information will already be there, ready for editing/altering as needed.

[Viper Specialty]

I don't get the impression that we'll be starting with a blank sheet in this case, at least not based on the screen captures Keith has shown. It does seem to be a bit convoluted, but I don't think you'll be needing to populate timing tables and the like...that information will already be there, ready for editing/altering as needed.

Just went and read it again. You may be right, he may be referring to everyone needing to start from a common point, which they will be supplying.

[Steve M]

Just went and read it again. You may be right, he may be referring to everyone needing to start from a common point, which they will be supplying.

Yeah...I asked him specifically about whether or not we'd be able to read out a Mopar PCM, but that will not be possible. On that same line of thinking, if you wrote to a Mopar PCM, you'd overwrite whatever was in there, essentially taking you back to a stock tune/configuration, which I don't think you'd be able to reset back to its original state.

My major concern is what happens if/when you brick your PCM on a failed write - I think he was going to see if the factory tools would be able to recover the PCM if this happens, but that would be an expensive mistake if they no longer worked. Can you even buy new Venom controllers for Gen 4s these days?

[FLATOUT]

Yes you can still buy the venom controllers from the dealer.

[steve911]

There are no assets available from Chrysler at the moment with NO good get well date.

[TooBlue]

On second thought, I think I will hang on to my Perf. ECU.



Just in case....

[ACRucrazy]

On second thought, I think I will hang on to my Perf. ECU.



Just in case....

I saw the similar thing happen with my Neon SRT-4 and Caliber SRT4. One day the performance PCMs are no longer made. I'm pretty sure I will always keep the Mopar PCM on hand. Someday you will be limited to whatever is on the used market.

[mjorgensen]

I have 1 Mopar PCM still on the shelf.

[tt347gt]

I agree it will be a big game changer for the gen 4s , can't wait