BBG Header Install

[Revolution]

Looking good hope to get mine together this week to Ron :O

[IndyRon]

Made some more progress on the PS headers. This side was much tighter than the DS and required removing the front crossmember, airbox for HVAC and 1/3 of the windshield cowl. Then I had to jack up the motor to get the large primaries to fit. Once in place, the passenger side was much like the driver side. Clearance was excellent, at least 3/4" at the closest point. I'm currently waiting on a couple parts but hope to have this wrapped up sometime this week. Corsa should be going on soon once I get the turnouts cut to size.

Old stuff coming out.


Had to wrestle the factory manifold out and tilt the motor and jack it up a bit.


No problems once the upper primaries were in place.


Collector view, 5 into 1.


Finishing the PS.


Closeup showing primaries.


Pic of the old stuff that came out.


Just a random pic with the honeycomb vents removed. I like the look. The car looks more functional, like a true racecar. Not to mention this is supposed to increase air extraction from underhood and help with front downforce according to interwebz lore.

[FrgMstr]

I love the sans grill look. Had it on my Gen III, been thinking about it on the current car. I think it especially looks awesome with that paint scheme.

[IndyRon]

I love the sans grill look. Had it on my Gen III, been thinking about it on the current car. I think it especially looks awesome with that paint scheme.

Thanks, I'm digging it too. Not to mention I can check the oil and adjust my Moton's without even popping the hood.

Dude, love the avatar! PM me that pic in high res if you have one.

[FrgMstr]

Thanks, I'm digging it too. Not to mention I can check the oil and adjust my Moton's without even popping the hood.

Dude, love the avatar! PM me that pic in high res if you have one.

Pic is here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/oncein...e/13955715764/

You can click the three little dots on the right menu and dl whatever size you want up to original.

[Vipes]

Looking good! Let me know if you need any help wrenching, I'm just a few minutes away.

[IndyRon]

Looking good! Let me know if you need any help wrenching, I'm just a few minutes away.

Thanks for the offer! I'm actually about done now. Got the DS turnouts and Corsa mounted and just have to do the passenger side then its just going over everything once more and making sure I don't have any spare parts. I'll be heading to the dyno next week if you are interested. It's just south of the airport.

[GreenVenom]

Very nice Ron!! No grills on the ACRx. So the race car connection is true. image.jpg actual ACRx photo

[Vipes]

Thanks for the offer! I'm actually about done now. Got the DS turnouts and Corsa mounted and just have to do the passenger side then its just going over everything once more and making sure I don't have any spare parts. I'll be heading to the dyno next week if you are interested. It's just south of the airport.

Great, that is going to sound mean!! PM sent.

[ACRucrazy]

I hope you put down some great numbers. Been looking forward to your install.

[IndyRon]

Very nice Ron!! No grills on the ACRx. So the race car connection is true. image.jpg actual ACRx photo

Thanks for the link..l wasn't aware of that.

Great, that is going to sound mean!! PM sent.

Didn't receive your PM. If you are on the south side also, we need to get a subgroup of folks together for a cookout or cruise and to grab a bite. The weather is too nice.

[Vipes]

Didn't receive your PM. If you are on the south side also, we need to get a subgroup of folks together for a cookout or cruise and to grab a bite. The weather is too nice.

That's a great idea, count me in! I'm on the southwest side, a few minutes from the airport.

-Troy

[IndyRon]

New Update!
I fired the car for the first time last night. Heat cycled the headers 3x and retorqued. The car fired up first time with no CEL's and no issues. The thing sounds mean!!! I went from the stock manifolds and 4 cats with no mufflers to the 1 7/8" BBG headers with 3" turnouts and corsa 3" track exhaust. The exhaust note is totally different. At idle before, it was much deeper and "rumbly". Now it is higher pitched and more "crackly" and sharp. I drove the car today for the first time and MAN! The car would never get traction in 1st even from a roll on Invo's. Now, in 2nd at ~3500rpm at 50mph, if you stab the gas, it spins all the way through 2nd and the rear end steps out. The powerband feels fatter all the way through, but expecially above 4k rpm to redline. The motor feels like it wants to keep pulling past 6400rpm.

The exhaust when at cruising speed in upper gears below 2k rpm, believe it or not, is actually slightly quieter with less drone than what I had before and I would say that believe it or not, the car is much better suited to a road trip than it was before...and this is without cats! Now, when you romp on it, it sounds like all hell is breaking lose and has a high pitched sharp exotic sound to it that is much louder than previously. Overall, I love it. At idle (to me) the motor sounds a little more like a tractor and less like a BBC which I don't like, but all other aspects of driving and cruising and at different RPM's I like it more.

Below are a few more pics of me finishing things up. I tried to get on the dyno today, but it was booked, so it will likely have to wait until early next week unfortunately. I'm still ridin' dirty with my side sills off around town and have gotten more than 1 funny looks at intersections, hah!

I can't say enough about Toddy and Bad Boyz Garage regarding this project. He made himself available to me at just about all hours and would call periodically to check in to see how the install was going and to give me a few pointers on things that would make it easier. As a vendor, he's gone above and beyond the call of duty and will bend over backwards to help you out. That is really unique and rare in this industry and when dealing with businesses in general. Not to mention, his product was beautiful from a finish as well as fitment standpoint. I didn't have to tweak anything and clearances were all perfect throughout.

Cut down the turnout to get the tip centered in the opening


Had the turnouts coated also. With the cats removed and the coated turnouts, there is actually much less radiant heat coming through the floorboards and sills which is a plus compared to before.



Everything buttoned up.

[v10CodeMonkey]

Toddy is great, when I was putting on my ACR-X headers, he answered whenever I called and even called me in the evening to see how my install was going and I didn't even buy them from him (they were used). Top notch vender IMO. Would love to hear a sound clip of these headers. I, too, prefer the more exotic pitch to the lower rumble - my ACR-X headers have a higher, racier sound and I love it!

[Vipes]

Looks perfect, can't wait to hear it in person!!

[IndyRon]

I tried to load a video clip with it running to get an idea of sound at idle but photobucket puked so I'll have to try again. It's hard to capture sound on video which means us Indy folks will have to take a cruise sometime soon!

[mjorgensen]

Very nice work and yes Toddy builds some wonderful pieces, I'm sure we will also be offering his headers when he gets rolling. Nice work to you and to Toddy.

[Revolution]

In the same boat can't get a decent sound clip

[Steve-Indy]

IndyRon, bring it to C&C tomorrow so that we can all hear it !!

Maybe, you can drag LunchBox out as well.

[IndyRon]

IndyRon, bring it to C&C tomorrow so that we can all hear it !!

Maybe, you can drag LunchBox out as well.

I just might do that depending on weather.

[Steve-Indy]

Thanks for coming, Ron...headers sound great, look great !!

[IndyRon]

Ok, had a chance to run the car on the dyno today. All runs were back to back with no cool down and no shut down between runs. I only have one graph with me but you can see the comparison. The headers graph was actually the 6th pull that I did back to back as the car kept gaining a couple hp each pull.

The lowest number is with the car completely stock except mufflers removed. The middle graph is with the Mopar PCM, UD pulley, and Gen 5 intake. The top graph is with BBG 1 7/8"headers, no cats, corsa 3"exhaust. All runs were on 93 octane. Seat of the pants confirms the gains above 4k rpms.



The car leaned out nicely with the new headers. Peak gains were 40rwhp/39rwtq from factory manifolds, cats, and no mufflers.

[ACRucrazy]

So headers and exhaust were worth 40/40 over previous mods.

[IndyRon]

So headers and exhaust were worth 40/40 over previous mods.

Yep. Headers only 40/39 and stock (minus mufflers) to current 53/59. I'm going to try and hit the track this Wednesday if it doesn't rain to get some trap speeds out of the car. I'd like to see low 130's with aero on the car. That will be the real test. Stay tuned.

[ACRucrazy]

Yep. I'm going to try and hit the track this Wednesday if it doesn't rain to get some trap speeds out of the car. I'd like to see low 130's with aero on the car. That will be the real test. Stay tuned.