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  1. #551
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    Thanks for your help Mark. I will recheck with him in the morning.

  2. #552
    The GenV PCM's have been a real hit, I just received #89, in I keep both the 13/14 and the 15' TA PCM's on the shelf (well most of the time Arrow is keeping up ;-) ), just sold my last non TA 15' one, but more coming in soon. So if you are thinking you have just waited way too long for the added performance with or without headers give me a call and I will send you some adrenaline!

    We also keep the Belanger systems on the shelf for those of you on the fence.

    Thanks and thank you all who are already enjoying the Arrow PCM's.

  3. #553
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    Mark, I would love to have one just for the fact it removes skip-shift, but I'm just not willing to risk my warranty to get rid of skip shift, especially with as many known engine failures are being reported on stock cars . My LE is about to reach the 5k mark, and has been as reliable as my old 08, but it was stock for the same reason...I just can't gamble on a $25k motor.

  4. #554
    Honestly I don't think the PCM would affect any warranty concerns that have been documented already, after all the same people did the tune, all they really changed was the emissions garbage that was robbing power, but I understand, if you were closer I could ease your mind more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malu59RT View Post
    Mark, I would love to have one just for the fact it removes skip-shift, but I'm just not willing to risk my warranty to get rid of skip shift, especially with as many known engine failures are being reported on stock cars . My LE is about to reach the 5k mark, and has been as reliable as my old 08, but it was stock for the same reason...I just can't gamble on a $25k motor.

  5. #555
    If any Gen5 owner hasn't ordered an Arrow PCM... DO IT NOW.

    Seriously, this is obviously the way the engine wanted to be dialed in. Runs AMAZING part throttle now, dead smooth/quieter exhaust at light throttle/high rpm in the lower gears vs. the stressed drone from before. Really really sweet feeling all the way through. Nice and crisp through the midrange with great power added virtually all the way through.

    Without a doubt, it just makes the car.

    Some people may scoff and say they don't notice it; but if you're paying attention and really "get it"; this is the final little cherry on top of the sundae.

    I'm sure it's only better with headers/high flows; but at least on a stock car, this is everything it should have been.

    As to the popping on decel... well, I could have lived without it, but it does add a little race-car feel into the mix. It scares people and sounds mean as hell

  6. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by mblgjr View Post

    ... Runs AMAZING part throttle now, dead smooth/quieter exhaust at light throttle/high rpm in the lower gears vs. the stressed drone from before. ...
    Hi mblgjr, am I reading your post correctly that the Arrow PCM help reduce exhaust drone in certain RPM range?
    Last edited by Bruce; 05-01-2015 at 12:14 PM.

  7. #557
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    Agree it's an awesome calibration. I definitely prefer it over the old setup I previously had on my TA. I have 2013-2015 including both TA controllers hitting Viperexchange's docks today.

    Shoot me an email at awheeler@viperexchange.com with what you need.

    Andy


    Quote Originally Posted by mblgjr View Post
    If any Gen5 owner hasn't ordered an Arrow PCM... DO IT NOW.

    Seriously, this is obviously the way the engine wanted to be dialed in. Runs AMAZING part throttle now, dead smooth/quieter exhaust at light throttle/high rpm in the lower gears vs. the stressed drone from before. Really really sweet feeling all the way through. Nice and crisp through the midrange with great power added virtually all the way through.

    Without a doubt, it just makes the car.

    Some people may scoff and say they don't notice it; but if you're paying attention and really "get it"; this is the final little cherry on top of the sundae.

    I'm sure it's only better with headers/high flows; but at least on a stock car, this is everything it should have been.

    As to the popping on decel... well, I could have lived without it, but it does add a little race-car feel into the mix. It scares people and sounds mean as hell

  8. #558
    Inquiring minds wanted to know why there are two calibrations from Arrow for 2015MY instead of one as was the case for 2013-2014...

    The Arrow P/Ns for the various versions of the Stage One Kits:

    00050956AA 2013-2014MY Plastic Throttle / .63 OD Cal (DEC Transmission)

    00050956BA 2015+ Aluminum Throttle / REV01 is .63 OD Cal (DEC Transmission)
    00050956BB 2015+ Aluminum Throttle / REV02 is .50 OD Cal (DD1 Transmission)

    It's not a TA or Non-TA calibration... the need for two cals for 2015MY has to do with having the different sixth gear ratios available.

  9. #559
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    The TA retained the same 6th gear ratio as the 13-14 year models. All other models received a revised 6th gear.

  10. #560
    All "B" Middle East Export models still have the DEC transmission as well, DD1 is not available. It's not just a TA model thing.

  11. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Hi mblgjr, am I reading your post correctly that the Arrow PCM help reduce exhaust drone in certain RPM range?
    Yes. 2-3k its most noticeable.

    At light/part throttle positions in 4/5 gear from 2500-4k rpm range the note is a bit lighter/crisper now. Between 2250-3k you can drive in a lower gear pretty quietly vs stock.

    Cruise in 6th either side of 2k is about the same. Maybe just a touch quieter at times.

    Its not a huge change; but I greatly prefer the new pcm. More of a proper, crisp note now vs the flat drone of before.


 
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