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  1. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by FastMatt View Post
    I cant see how one of these cars with heads, cam, headers, tune cant make close to 700rwhp less the cam is not much of a upgrade.
    So you're disappointed that these cars aren't making 820+ HP at the crank with minimal tuning? Cams are an upgrade but 820 HP is getting into mild turbo territory

  2. #352
    When do you think we'll see the first dyno numbers on a header car? I'm sure you're anxious to publish actual numbers from a in-shop car.

    I shouldn't be this excited while preparing for a snowmegdon storm coming in, but can't help it. Not only for the PCM itself, but I think it's a great sign overall that this is finally coming out, who knows hat the future might bring next.

  3. #353
    As soon as mine gets here I will get it to a local dyno to get a number! Im also in snow country but I will trailer the car to the shop.

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    Well stated

    Quote Originally Posted by kdaviper View Post
    So you're disappointed that these cars aren't making 820+ HP at the crank with minimal tuning? Cams are an upgrade but 820 HP is getting into mild turbo territory

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdaviper View Post
    So you're disappointed that these cars aren't making 820+ HP at the crank with minimal tuning? Cams are an upgrade but 820 HP is getting into mild turbo territory
    This. Cams/Heads/Headers are an upgrade but are not going to make 700rwhp. They're barely making 600rwhp, 619rwhp I believe with the BBG package.

  6. #356
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    you may need a BAP, you definitely want to start with 100 shot and work up.
    Standalone fuel cell for the spray Trying to avoid a BAP but if its needed it won't be an issue. PHR also has a drop in pump solution.

  7. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by kdaviper View Post
    So you're disappointed that these cars aren't making 820+ HP at the crank with minimal tuning? Cams are an upgrade but 820 HP is getting into mild turbo territory
    Well seeing how with the stock cam 650rwhp has been had on gen 4's.....

  8. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by FastMatt View Post
    Well seeing how with the stock cam 650rwhp has been had on gen 4's.....
    where are these 650 rwhp Gen IV's?

  9. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by kdaviper View Post
    where are these 650 rwhp Gen IV's?
    well here is one that took all of 5 seconds in google to find... 653rwhp to be exact

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=XAAhyyHk5dE

  10. #360
    So where do you think the Gen V motor will be able to make the extra 70 hp compared to a Gen IV in order to lay down 700 at the wheels?

  11. #361
    More info released for PCM and Heads and Cam packages on the Woodhouse Motorsports Division FB page. Sorry can't post from my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    More info released for PCM and Heads and Cam packages on the Woodhouse Motorsports Division FB page. Sorry can't post from my phone.
    mark will you please post a clip of a cold start and idle of a gen v with the heads/cam/header package after you install one.

  13. #363
    Of course, but not sure when those parts are coming yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by KB Viper View Post
    mark will you please post a clip of a cold start and idle of a gen v with the heads/cam/header package after you install one.

  14. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by kdaviper View Post
    So where do you think the Gen V motor will be able to make the extra 70 hp compared to a Gen IV in order to lay down 700 at the wheels?
    With a cam? I still have yet to see a dyno from a gen 4 or a gen 5 with a cam. But plenty of gen 4's have made 620-650 with the stock cam in place. Like the one I posted above that made 653 rwhp with the stock cam.

  15. #365
    So what were the before and after dyno numbers, it is well established a dyno can say whatever you want it to we just need a Gaines sheet, final numbers don't prove anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by FastMatt View Post
    With a cam? I still have yet to see a dyno from a gen 4 or a gen 5 with a cam. But plenty of gen 4's have made 620-650 with the stock cam in place. Like the one I posted above that made 653 rwhp with the stock cam.

  16. #366
    im not stoked on the 25 brake hp from the ecu....I thought we would see that at the wheels......

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    Guys we'll see real world numbers from the great guys at a Woodhouse when they can get them. And yes as Marc mentioned dyno's vary wildly so it's all about comparing the gains at the same dyno. Wood house has dyno'd a bunch of cars on that same dyno so they will have some excellent baselines to compare to.

    Very excited about this!

  18. #368
    I think they are basing the number on a strong cars gains. We have seen better results and know that every car is a little different so real world numbers will vary. Based on the gains of the G4 PCM on a stock car these will be better even if it is 25. We will get some numbers as soon as I have a shop car fitted.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1evilviper View Post
    im not stoked on the 25 brake hp from the ecu....I thought we would see that at the wheels......

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    Well I guess that S/C info wasn't all that secret after all lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Well I guess that S/C info wasn't all that secret after all lol.
    ?????

  21. #371
    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Well I guess that S/C info wasn't all that secret after all lol.
    For real, can things get any more exciting around here, wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    Well I guess that S/C info wasn't all that secret after all lol.
    Holy smokes...that's unbelievable! You could forgive that from heat soaking a bit from time to time!

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    Wait, the aftermarket supercharger is good for a 250hp bump? wtf

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    Man I was 100% on board until I realized I couldn't pass inspection. In Austin we have to pass emissions...as I'm are is the same in Houston and DFW. Can the PCM be swapped back to stock easily once a year to get inspection completed and then swap back? Pain in the ass I know....

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    Its nice to see options for a cam along with a pcm upgrade after all these years. I don’t care what anyone says, but we don’t have chevys or fords. We are a small market and im glad company’s are investing RnD for all this. I feel that it is what it is. If you want heads, cam or a s/c the option is there. Don’t bitch and complain about the price vs power. We should be happy the options are there


 
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