Just released off-road PCM for Gen V

[mjorgensen]

Great news about the much needed off-road PCM for the GenV cars, it is VERY close, as are other possibilities for power from a trusted source. You can get on the list I have going if you are wanting one of the PCM's, I ordered 20 of them and have 12 left at this moment. I will not post pricing at this time, but I think you will be happy with it.

[FLATOUT]

Been trying to get Arrow to call me back on these. So glad we are about to make some POWA! Mark when did they tell you delivery would actually happen?

Andy

[mjorgensen]

Been trying to get Arrow to call me back on these. So glad we are about to make some POWA! Mark when did they tell you delivery would actually happen?

Andy

I was asked not to give that out, sorry. It will be soon though ;-)

[AbsolutHank]

Great news!

[FLATOUT]

Great news!

It's go time

[Steve M]

Awesome...can't wait to see what these guys can put down with headers with this PCM.

Were they willing to provide a list of the things it will do (like bump up the RPMs, idle speed, etc.) like they did with the Gen IV Mopar PCM?

[mjorgensen]

Awesome...can't wait to see what these guys can put down with headers with this PCM.

Were they willing to provide a list of the things it will do (like bump up the RPMs, idle speed, etc.) like they did with the Gen IV Mopar PCM?

Yes...

[Steve M]

Yes...

I see...

[ViperSmith]

I feel a lot of CC's are about to get a workout

[Dman]

Can it provide more headroom? lol, sorry.

Awesome that this news is finally leaking out, should make a ton of folks very happy. It should come with a clause that if you buy one & mod, then you MUST dyno & post results here. ;-)

[FLATOUT]

I will do back to back on the same dyno I made all of my Gen IV pulls on so I can compare it to those as well. I will get a stock number soon. I have a track day this weekend so hopefully it will loosen up a little

Can it provide more headroom? lol, sorry.

Awesome that this news is finally leaking out, should make a ton of folks very happy. It should come with a clause that if you buy one & mod, then you MUST dyno & post results here. ;-)

[pdv25]

Can it provide more headroom? lol, sorry.

Awesome that this news is finally leaking out, should make a ton of folks very happy. It should come with a clause that if you buy one & mod, then you MUST dyno & post results here. ;-)

Planning on doing just that! That Racing Channel will do a before and after dyno video in stock form. Then add headers, cat back and tune. Intakes will be nice also if I could find some.

[FLATOUT]

Planning on doing just that! That Racing Channel will do a before and after dyno video in stock form. Then add headers, cat back and tune. Intakes will be nice also if I could find some.

Not a better intake out there, headers, high flow cats, or no cats, ECU, Smooth Tubes, Under Drive Pulley, catch can setup as well.

[pdv25]

Not a better intake out there, headers, high flow cats, or no cats, ECU, Smooth Tubes, Under Drive Pulley, catch can setup as well.

Definetly going cat less. I want to make the most HP possible. I will get with Mark to see what else is out there to put on. It may be a long shot but if it traps close to my old GTR (137mph) I will be very happy.

[daytonprowler]

"Great news about the much needed off-road PCM for the GenV cars."

Who would take a GenV Viper off-road? I'm sure none of you would use that PCM for street use. ; )

[Bruce H.]

Mark,

Will the new PCM likely increase power much on an otherwise stock set-up, or is it more to use in combination with exhaust mods? If so, then please add me to the list. I just plan to keep exhaust stock at the moment.

Bruce

[FLATOUT]

Yes

Mark,

Will the new PCM likely increase power much on an otherwise stock set-up, or is it more to use in combination with exhaust mods? If so, then please add me to the list. I just plan to keep exhaust stock at the moment.

Bruce

[mjorgensen]

Mark,

Will the new PCM likely increase power much on an otherwise stock set-up, or is it more to use in combination with exhaust mods? If so, then please add me to the list. I just plan to keep exhaust stock at the moment.

Bruce

You will gain a few things that will definitely help performance even on a stock vehicle Bruce, email me mjorgensen@woodhouse.com with your contact info and I'll add you to this list.

Thanks,

[Stealth]

You will gain a few things that will definitely help performance even on a stock vehicle Bruce, email me mjorgensen@woodhouse.com with your contact info and I'll add you to this list.

Thanks,

Mark:

Good news on the new pcm.

Is this like the Venom Controller for the Gen IV or different? As some other posts have asked, will this be a canned-tune which takes care of CEL, raises rev limter slightly and has a bit of a change/flexibility on Air/Fuel, etc.? Or will it be custom-tunable and if so, who will be able to tune it?

Also, if you do not mind, could you expand a bit on your answer quoted above?

In particular, on an otherwise stock vehicle, running no more than 91 octane fuel, with no more than a Corsa Cat back and stock Cats, what kind of rwhp and rwtrq gains are estimated for the controller?

My understanding was with a Gen IV, the changes to a different PCM controller under the conditions specified would provide little or no change in power. Of course, if you added headers, high-flow cats, etc. then it was possible to hit 40-50+rwhp/rwtrq gains. If you tuned for 93 octane or higher, then some additional gains may be possible.

The potential gains are especially important in California where we have emissions and equipment checks on change in title and then every so many years which would make it difficult to run non-CARB Certified headers, except for offroad use.

Thank you for your estimated thoughts!

[mjorgensen]

Answered as good as I could below.

Mark:

Good news on the new pcm.

Is this like the Venom Controller for the Gen IV or different? As some other posts have asked, will this be a canned-tune which takes care of CEL, raises rev limter slightly and has a bit of a change/flexibility on Air/Fuel, etc.? Or will it be custom-tunable and if so, who will be able to tune it?

There will be NO custom user adjustments like was stated elswhere on the forums.

Also, if you do not mind, could you expand a bit on your answer quoted above?

I do not know actual details about any aftermarket tuners working on these, just rumors.

In particular, on an otherwise stock vehicle, running no more than 91 octane fuel, with no more than a Corsa Cat back and stock Cats, what kind of rwhp and rwtrq gains are estimated for the controller?

Each car may be different depending on sensitivity, but 30+ on a stock car is not out of the question IMO.

My understanding was with a Gen IV, the changes to a different PCM controller under the conditions specified would provide little or no change in power. Of course, if you added headers, high-flow cats, etc. then it was possible to hit 40-50+rwhp/rwtrq gains. If you tuned for 93 octane or higher, then some additional gains may be possible.

The controller will give you whatever the fuel will allow, all the sensors still work, they are just more open so if there is no knock there will be no retard or fuel enrichment to protect cats.

The potential gains are especially important in California where we have emissions and equipment checks on change in title and then every so many years which would make it difficult to run non-CARB Certified headers, except for offroad use.

The Belangers have thus far proven to work trouble free on the GenV without the PCM, so I would think that barring a visual check they might pass in California testing although still would be illegal. I'm no expert, but the Belangers being more efficiant and the rear o2's working properly when they plug in should not sound any alarms would it?

Thank you for your estimated thoughts!

[Resident Alien]

That's the best piece of news for the Gen V since the T/A came out.

[mjorgensen]

That's the best piece of news for the Gen V since the T/A came out.

Add a 3.73 rear gear and it gets even more "entertaining"

[FLATOUT]

Add a 3.73 rear gear and it gets even more "entertaining"

For autocross maybe lol.

[mjorgensen]

For autocross maybe lol.

Maybe :-)

SRT guys like the 4.10 the best though... cruise control will not work with anything deeper then the 3.73.

[Jack B]

The best autox is the stock set up - run first gear the whole course

For autocross maybe lol.