Just released off-road PCM for Gen V

[Bruce H.]

Agree or not, it's worth a try! The warranty issue is a moot one and can easily be addressed! Sale of PCM = a voided powertrain warranty. That's a win for them if you think about it. Let us the customers determine what we want. Big Power is not cheap and will always require big money, but a low or moderate power increase shouldn't cost an extra arm and leg due to the costs of ecu s out there! Most hot-rodders just want a low-moderate increase anyways, why not make them happy?!

Hopefully about a 40 hp bump with bolt-ons will satisfy many because that's what's coming by the looks of it.

[FLATOUT]

Hopefully about a 40 hp bump with bolt-ons will satisfy many because that's what's coming by the looks of it.

We'll make 600rwhp easy with boltons, and that will keep me entertained for awhile.

[Voice of Reason]

Every dyno day I go to where a range of cars attends most of the 'fast' guys are all in the 570-590 rwhp range. Of course there's always one guy who pulls 750 but their car is normally far from street able. So if we end up with a full bolt on that's at 600 I'll be content.

[mjorgensen]

Mark--i know we are still waiting on legal, i just want to confirm i'm on your buy list.
Kris

Yes Kris you are on the list #41

[Nine Ball]

Every dyno day I go to where a range of cars attends most of the 'fast' guys are all in the 570-590 rwhp range. Of course there's always one guy who pulls 750 but their car is normally far from street able.

LOL. Those would be the "slow" guys, here in Houston. Like daily drivers level.

[Jack B]

You only ordered 40

Yes Kris you are on the list #41

[FLATOUT]

LOL. Those would be the "slow" guys, here in Houston. Like daily drivers level.

Trust me I know all to well This is my life with a Gen IV or V Viper in Houston.

[Voice of Reason]

LOL. Those would be the "slow" guys, here in Houston. Like daily drivers level.

Yeah yeah yeah, Texas has the fastest cars in the world. We get it. I lived there for 6 years.

These ARE daily drivers that show up at the dyno days I've attended. Around here you don't see UGR BlaBla one meelion hp whatever cars, the ones that only materialize at 2:00am and are driven for 100 miles before they need a rebuild. I'm talking cars that actually exist on a regular basis. And 600 rwhp will take down 99% of them. I'm not after the 0.1%, they have more money than sense.

[FLATOUT]

I don't like 10 cars running a train on me on my way home from cars and coffee lol. Down here that can very easily happen its reality. When I lived in Maryland outside of Sals Viper there was maybe only two or three guys in town that ran high 9's and you never saw those cars.

Down here they just seem to be in abundance.

Yeah yeah yeah, Texas has the fastest cars in the world. We get it. I lived there for 6 years.

These ARE daily drivers that show up at the dyno days I've attended. Around here you don't see UGR BlaBla one meelion hp whatever cars, the ones that only materialize at 2:00am and are driven for 100 miles before they need a rebuild. I'm talking cars that actually exist on a regular basis. And 600 rwhp will take down 99% of them. I'm not after the 0.1%, they have more money than sense.

[Nine Ball]

Yeah yeah yeah, Texas has the fastest cars in the world. We get it. I lived there for 6 years.

Not Texas. Houston. The rest of the state is pretty slow, by comparison. Dallas is a close 2nd, but they don't have the volume. My daily-driven Cadillac has enough to be big dog in your area, and it has 57K miles now

[FrgMstr]

600rwhp ain't nothing special in Dallas.....for that matter neither is 750. Every yahoo with a CTS-V is bangin' that out. Of course those cars don't do much turning.

[KB Viper]

hi Mark--any updates?

[cashcorn]

yes, any day now.. lol

[Simms]

I've read somewhere else that Arrow Racing is involved in the the development of the PCM. Did I interpret that correctly?

[tiki240]

was your TT GTS the one on thatracingchannel ?

[Simms]

was your TT GTS the one on thatracingchannel ?

No Sir. But they look very similar from a distance.

[Jack B]

The G5 off-road PCM was developed by Arrow. What part SRT had in the project is a little hazy, it is probably a SRT licensed product with the development by Arrow. They are sitting there ready to be released.

I've read somewhere else that Arrow Racing is involved in the the development of the PCM. Did I interpret that correctly?

[Simms]

The G5 off-road PCM was developed by Arrow. What part SRT had in the project is a little hazy, it is probably a SRT licensed product with the development by Arrow. They are sitting there ready to be released.

Thanks Jack. If SRT never releases it, what are the chances Aarow can as one of their products?

[Bruce H.]

I think the whole point is SRT will have nothing to do with it and the legal ramifications an OEM would face..

[FLATOUT]

I think the whole point is SRT will have nothing to do with it and the legal ramifications an OEM would face..

They are literally the only major U.S. automanufacturer that doesn't know how to get this done (you get it out to the aftermarket and let them deal with the legalities). Thankfully for us HP Tuners now has Gen V PCM's headed their way.

[cashcorn]

^^^^^^^^^ outstanding!!

[Simms]

They are literally the only major U.S. automanufacturer that doesn't know how to get this done (you get it out to the aftermarket and let them deal with the legalities). Thankfully for us HP Tuners now has Gen V PCM's headed their way.

Awesome!

[Bruce H.]

I don't know HP Tuners or the caliber of the tune they'd be expected to provide, but I've now spoken to all the right people about the one that's already been developed and it is definitely the real deal to optimize performance for a bone stock car and for ones with headers and/or exhaust mods. I'm guessing ECUs from others will be tunable for forced induction and other mods which some will need. It'll be good to have something for everyone...and hopefully soon.

[Steve M]

I don't know HP Tuners or the caliber of the tune they'd be expected to provide, but I've now spoken to all the right people about the one that's already been developed and it is definitely the real deal to optimize performance for a bone stock car and for ones with headers and/or exhaust mods. I'm guessing ECUs from others will be tunable for forced induction and other mods which some will need. It'll be good to have something for everyone...and hopefully soon.

HPTuners wouldn't be providing anything other than the software to tune the existing ECU/PCM/whatever...the quality of the tune is up to the end user. A scary thought to some, but it's that flexibility to tune beyond simple bolt ons that people desire, and HPTuners would open up that door. The Mopar PCM might seem like the real deal, but it ain't doing anyone any good sitting on shelves waiting for someone to give the green light.

I'm starting to wonder if people aren't buying into HPTuners for the Gen 4 simply because they don't understand what it really is, and what it can do.

[ViperTony]

I'm starting to wonder if people aren't buying into HPTuners for the Gen 4 simply because they don't understand what it really is, and what it can do.

That's not it. Until GenIV owners start posting their experience with, and more importantly, their results with the HPTuners software be it with bolt-ons, engine work, boost, other mods....I don't see sales taking off quite yet. But they will in due time.