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    I agree. I'd take it offline.

    There has to be someone our community that would help this guy out, not just as a fellow car guy but a fellow Viper owner. I've needed representation from a fellow enthusiast who just so happens to be a lawyer. Took my case and knocked off 50% of the fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    Tampering with evidence is bad.
    Evidence? What evidence.. (quickly hides body)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerAce View Post
    I agree. I'd take it offline.

    There has to be someone our community that would help this guy out, not just as a fellow car guy but a fellow Viper owner. I've needed representation from a fellow enthusiast who just so happens to be a lawyer. Took my case and knocked off 50% of the fees.
    Yeah. A lawyer in Dallas. With a Viper. In the viper community. Who understands cars and maybe even designed powertrain systems for a living before he want to law school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    Yeah. A lawyer in Dallas. With a Viper. In the viper community. Who understands cars and maybe even designed powertrain systems for a living before he want to law school.
    LOL I giggled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    Yeah. A lawyer in Dallas. With a Viper. In the viper community. Who understands cars and maybe even designed powertrain systems for a living before he want to law school.
    Where could someone find such an attorney? That sounds nearly impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACRSNK View Post
    Where could someone find such an attorney? That sounds nearly impossible.
    Maybe call the Texas Hammer Jim Adler…
    Or maybe a lurker in this very thread.. hmmmm

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    A lawyer like this can't possibly exist. A lawyer with those credentials and who owns a Viper, surely he must be a Unicorn sprinkled with pixie dust if he is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    Yeah. A lawyer in Dallas. With a Viper. In the viper community. Who understands cars and maybe even designed powertrain systems for a living before he want to law school.
    post noodz?

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    I'm forklift certified AND I almost have my associates degree


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGeorge View Post
    A lawyer like this can't possibly exist. A lawyer with those credentials and who owns a Viper, surely he must be a Unicorn sprinkled with pixie dust if he is real.
    He should definitely just give up hope and try to win a civil law suit himself pro-se. No sense throwing good time after bad looking for some sort of mythical viper driving “lawineer” that has represented car owners against tuner shops and vice versa.

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    Do you take on a case which say someone paid for a $2300 Viper part from Co A and waited 7 months and never received the part and then told the company who makes the part (Co B) no longer make the part so Co B sent a check back to Co A and Co A never sent a refund to the purchaser?

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    Just cancelled my Netflix, that thread is my new entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    Do you take on a case which say someone paid for a $2300 Viper part from Co A and waited 7 months and never received the part and then told the company who makes the part (Co B) no longer make the part so Co B sent a check back to Co A and Co A never sent a refund to the purchaser?
    It’s really too small to justify hiring an attorney. Even $20k isn’t really worth it for me. Unless I take it to trial and collect and recover punitive damages, attorney fees etc I stand to make $5k or less.

    It would be my smallest case by an order of magnitude in terms of cases I've done "for money." I normally just do these kinds of cases because it's my friend's car or shop or something.
    Last edited by Lawineer; 03-17-2023 at 09:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    Do you take on a case which say someone paid for a $2300 Viper part from Co A and waited 7 months and never received the part and then told the company who makes the part (Co B) no longer make the part so Co B sent a check back to Co A and Co A never sent a refund to the purchaser?
    Wouldn't be worth hiring an attorney over $2300, period. $20k is barely worth it. haha

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    For future reference, USAA allows this as a claim and they would go after the shop thenselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13COBRA View Post
    Wouldn't be worth hiring an attorney over $2300, period. $20k is barely worth it. haha
    "Life is too short to litigate."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    "Life is too short to litigate."
    Correct...unless it's a large sum ($100k+)...or you're just proving a point. lol

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    So the OP should just let this go?
    Or are you saying you’ll spend more money than it’s worth compared to what you’ll get in return?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    So the OP should just let this go?
    Or are you saying you’ll spend more money than it’s worth compared to what you’ll get in return?
    I wouldn't let it go. I'd turn it into insurance.

    But, taking it to court, you'll still be in the red when it's all said and done...and have a lot more stress.

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    Yea, that’s what I’m trying to do over the money I lost, just get over it. The stress isn’t worth it. Even though it’s a drop of what Mikey is dealing with, it’s still upsetting the guy took my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    Yea, that’s what I’m trying to do over the money I lost, just get over it. The stress isn’t worth it. Even though it’s a drop of what Mikey is dealing with, it’s still upsetting the guy took my money.
    Oh for sure.

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    It's super annoying when anything like this happens. I still think putting in a claim with the shop's insurance is the best thing to do. Another lesson learned from this is always put these purchases on a credit card that has a very good customer protection policy. As the old Amex commercial used to say "don't leave home without it." If someone won't take my Amex Platinum card, I go elsewhere.

    Other things that I'd personally be doing right now are filing claims with the BBB, the Texas AG, TxDMV, and any other agency that I could dig up. We pay tax dollars to keep those government agencies running, so may as well use them as much as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    It's super annoying when anything like this happens. I still think putting in a claim with the shop's insurance is the best thing to do. Another lesson learned from this is always put these purchases on a credit card that has a very good customer protection policy. As the old Amex commercial used to say "don't leave home without it." If someone won't take my Amex Platinum card, I go elsewhere.

    Other things that I'd personally be doing right now are filing claims with the BBB, the Texas AG, TxDMV, and any other agency that I could dig up. We pay tax dollars to keep those government agencies running, so may as well use them as much as possible.

    I filed all the complaints with those agencies, I didn't want to file a charge back and end up with a mechanics lien. I already have someone on retainer so the claims lady at USAA suggested I just let the attorney go after the insurance since I already spent the money

    This just adds another reason why I'll be staying with USAA. If God forbid I end up in another situation like this again, I know USAA will let me submit a claim for it

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    The only issue about credit cards is you only have 30 maybe 60 days to file a claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    The only issue about credit cards is you only have 30 maybe 60 days to file a claim.
    True - but often they'll still allow it if you show that you worked your ass off to try and resolve it yourself, and filing the claim was the last resort. That said, after 90 days, all bets are off. They like to either have an immediate claim for something easy like a "no delivery", or a very well documented claim for something as complex as this. That said, they usually don't cover motor vehicles - but they often will cover repairs that weren't done or weren't done right. Cards like Amex will immediately go after whatever insurance they have and they'll subrogate the claim to whoever had anything to do with it.


 
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