What are my options after a rod bearing failure

[Steve M]

They didn’t even ask about who’s doing the engine. And they just did Mikey’s and this is a reputable builder?

That's my point.

Known engine builder calls Prefix = maybe they'll tune it. That's a company to company interaction, not private party to company.

Random person calls Prefix = no

You either have to be a known quantity with a reputable business, or you have to buy everything from them so they at least know parts they trust were used.

[Sniper]

Gotcha

[Jack B]

Maybe the HC came from prefix therefore, the tune was a known entity. Or the builder shared the A/F and timing data from a dyno pull. From multiple experiences with prefix, I highly doubt they would provide a tune on an unknown build,

That's my point.

Known engine builder calls Prefix = maybe they'll tune it. That's a company to company interaction, not private party to company.

Random person calls Prefix = no

You either have to be a known quantity with a reputable business, or you have to buy everything from them so they at least know parts they trust were used.

[Viperawi]

If there is anything I learned from this thread it's that I was gonna send just my engine to prefix but now I'm gonna ship the entire car and have them do everything. This thread just hurts to read. I hope you get everything taken care of, I'm rooting for you.

Totally agree, this thread just hurts to read.
I am going through something similar with a failed engine, so a lot of learnings from this thread.

I really wish you all the best Mikey.

[Sniper]

I just went through losing $2300 for a Vivid Racing diffuser I bought from Que Anthony Racing. Had to wait 7 months just to be told the company doesn’t make this anymore and Vivid refunded Anthony the money who wasn’t even in business any longer and Que Anthony told me he’d refund me once he got the money. I confirmed with Que Anthony vhe received the money and would send me a money order and then he quit answering my texts and phone calls.

[Mikey]

I just went through losing $2300 for a Vivid Racing diffuser I bought from Que Anthony Racing. Had to wait 7 months just to be told the company doesn’t make this anymore and Vivid refunded Anthony the money who wasn’t even in business any longer and Que Anthony told me he’d refund me once he got the money. I confirmed with Que Anthony vhe received the money and would send me a money order and then he quit answering my texts and phone calls.

Never deal with vivid, dispute with your credit card company

[Sniper]

It’s Que Anthony Racing who I bought it through who purchased from Vivid Racing. I tried disputing with my CC company and they denied as it happened too long ago.

[Mikey]

Motor should be reaching Reno either today or tomorrow. Moment of truth

[Lawineer]

It will probably be a moment of ambiguity.

Odds of there being damage to only bearing (meaning it is clearly the builder's responsibility) or a lot of damage to all bearings fairly evenly (with the exception of the spun one being obviously spun) is pretty low imo.

Even then, there were will be arguments that the spun bearing debris caused damage to the other bearings or that just a little debris got through and caught that one bearing.


I'll venture to guess the information you get will create just as many questions as answers it provides.

[Mikey]

I feel uneasy with my car sitting at that shop. He still hasn't refunded me the 2k in parts. I can only imagine other things miraculously going wrong on my car if things turn ugly

[Mikey]

So I'm finally getting my refund for the phantom parts and I receive a text from the installer. "OK, I have to determine the time in cleaning the cooler and lines with ultrasonic and all."

Unbelievable.

[Jack B]

The pan is fractured, that means something came loose, not just a spun bearing. Maybe I missed the post, but, a failure like this is associated with a lot of noise.

It will probably be a moment of ambiguity.

Odds of there being damage to only bearing (meaning it is clearly the builder's responsibility) or a lot of damage to all bearings fairly evenly (with the exception of the spun one being obviously spun) is pretty low imo.

Even then, there were will be arguments that the spun bearing debris caused damage to the other bearings or that just a little debris got through and caught that one bearing.


I'll venture to guess the information you get will create just as many questions as answers it provides.

[Mikey]

The pan is fractured, that means something came loose, not just a spun bearing. Maybe I missed the post, but, a failure like this is associated with a lot of noise.

The first failure made wayyyyyy more noise. No noise until I got off the toll road this go around

[Lawineer]

The pan is fractured, that means something came loose, not just a spun bearing. Maybe I missed the post, but, a failure like this is associated with a lot of noise.

Ah yes. I forgot about this detail.

Something coming loose is definitely on the engine builder.

[ViperSRT]

Ah yes. I forgot about this detail.

Something coming loose is definitely on the engine builder.

Too much certainty in that statement. So you are stating all engines that fail with broken conn rods are due to misassembly? I don’t agree.

[Mikey]

Prior to the no oil message. The only sound was a very slight flutter coming from the passenger side, I thought maybe the 02 wiring was rattling there, I had to turn the stereo all the way down to hear it. Shortly after the oil pressure went to 0, it felt like maybe something popped off, there was no noise until I got further down the road

[TIME]

So I'm finally getting my refund for the phantom parts and I receive a text from the installer. "OK, I have to determine the time in cleaning the cooler and lines with ultrasonic and all."

Unbelievable.

There could still be contaminants in the "cooler and lines" after ultrasonic cleaning. Worth checking and definitely not re-use those components.

[Martin]

There could still be contaminants in the "cooler and lines" after ultrasonic cleaning. Worth checking and definitely not re-use those components.

I think that the shop is playing games - they're going to try and charge for the amount of time they did something that Mikey didn't ask them to do. Then, they'll deduct their time from the refund. If that's the case, it's a real a-hole maneuver.

[13COBRA]

Mikey,

I would told him there's no reason to add up time for 'cleaning' out the lines. You were originally charged to replace all of it...it wasn't replaced. At this point you have no faith that any work was done to the lines or coolers. You demand a full refund.

[Lawineer]

Too much certainty in that statement. So you are stating all engines that fail with broken conn rods are due to misassembly? I don’t agree.

All? No. I guess there could be some horrible manufacturing defect that he couldn't see/detect, but damn near all of the time, if a part comes loose, flying off the engine and smashes into the oil pan in 500 miles, yea... pretty much.

[Mikey]

He of course came up with more excuses, I'm trying to tread lightly as my car is sitting in his shop.

The motor left Los Angeles thus morning, looks like it'll reach Reno at the end of the day today or tomorrow morning

[13COBRA]

He of course came up with more excuses, I'm trying to tread lightly as my car is sitting in his shop.

The motor left Los Angeles thus morning, looks like it'll reach Reno at the end of the day today or tomorrow morning

I mean...I'd go get my car.

[Mikey]

I mean...I'd go get my car.

The issue is, and take it where?

[13COBRA]

The issue is, and take it where?

I'd bring it back to my house until I get all this sorted out.

[Mikey]

I'd bring it back to my house until I get all this sorted out.

With no motor and a steep incline that would be ambitious. The motor should be getting to Kevin tomorrow morning, depending on what shows during the tear down I'll probably just send the entire car to either Kevin or calvo