Do you track your genV

[pMak26]

Genuinely interested to know how many genV owners take their car to the track. 20%? 50%? More? Finally got the TA2.0 out to a track day and even on crap 'track day' tires had a great time. These cars are so rewarding to drive at the limit. There is more enjoyment driving this than many other faster cars out there.



I have a few more clips from that day on my channel and will be posting more as I do more days this summer.

Shoutout thanks for the setup help and advice from Arizona and TKO. There is much more to come from this car

[ViperGeorge]

They are great fun on the track. However, I doubt you were close to the limit of the car. These cars have such tremendous capability that I doubt all but a professional driver could ring out the last bit of performance by driving them at the limit. This car is a much better car than I am a driver for sure. I have tracked Vipers since 1999 and at no time have I thought I was near the limit of the car, near my limit? Sure happens a lot.

[13COBRA]

Genuinely interested to know how many genV owners take their car to the track. 20%? 50%? More? Finally got the TA2.0 out to a track day and even on crap 'track day' tires had a great time. These cars are so rewarding to drive at the limit. There is more enjoyment driving this than many other faster cars out there.



I have a few more clips from that day on my channel and will be posting more as I do more days this summer.

Shoutout thanks for the setup help and advice from Arizona and TKO. There is much more to come from this car

Awesome!

I agree with George. Best thing you can do is find a REALLY good driver, to take you for a lap around the track in your car or his...it'll open your eyes.

[RedTanRT/10]

Nice video, track looks to be very fast!!!

To your question about tracking G5's, I'd guess probably closer to 5%. Probably was closer to 10% in the first few years, then as prices began to rise so many G5 owners are more focused on appreciation then having fun with their Vipers!! Too bad, their great track cars!! Have fun and be safe, don't worry about resale!!!! Mike

[13COBRA]

Nice video, track looks to be very fast!!!

To your question about tracking G5's, I'd guess probably closer to 5%. Probably was closer to 10% in the first few years, then as prices began to rise so many G5 owners are more focused on appreciation then having fun with their Vipers!! Too bad, their great track cars!! Have fun and be safe, don't worry about resale!!!! Mike

Definitely pay more attention to the smiles than the ROI.

[pMak26]

Awesome!
I agree with George. Best thing you can do is find a REALLY good driver, to take you for a lap around the track in your car or his...it'll open your eyes.

With all due respect, I'm usually one of those drivers someone is putting in their car to open their eyes lol. I'm not Randy Pobst, but I'm not far off him either . Yes in the attached video I was overslowing 1 a LOT and lifting onto the straight when the car could have gone flat. It was also faster to run 4th out bouncing the limiter until the brake zone. This was not a day to get 10/10th from the car. Plus... I own this one HAH.

Even at 7-8/10ths this car is so much more fun to drive than so many other road cars I've had the privilege to track; Ferraris, Pcars, Mclarens, etc. It's a shame more genV owners don't take them out if the number really is only 5%.

FWIW, I do 1:28s on the same track in my 280whp 3100# m3. The Viper only managed a 1:30.6, so it gives an idea of just how much grip was lacking from these tires. I can't wait until my track wheels show up and I can go again on slicks

Well driven S2000s were doing 1:30-31s on slicks.

[PkB2014]

Nice video, track looks to be very fast!!!

To your question about tracking G5's, I'd guess probably closer to 5%. Probably was closer to 10% in the first few years, then as prices began to rise so many G5 owners are more focused on appreciation then having fun with their Vipers!! Too bad, their great track cars!! Have fun and be safe, don't worry about resale!!!! Mike

yeah, i'm wary of tracking too much now that the values are through the roof and replacement parts are getting more scarce. I still autocross regularly, but it would suck to have an accident and not be able to replace it. I want to do more track stuff, but i'll probably use a cheaper more available car for any big track events. aka. one of the millions of available corvettes in the world.

[13COBRA]

With all due respect, I'm usually one of those drivers someone is putting in their car to open their eyes lol. I'm not Randy Pobst, but I'm not far off him either . Yes in the attached video I was overslowing 1 a LOT and lifting onto the straight when the car could have gone flat. It was also faster to run 4th out bouncing the limiter until the brake zone. This was not a day to get 10/10th from the car. Plus... I own this one HAH.

Even at 7-8/10ths this car is so much more fun to drive than so many other road cars I've had the privilege to track; Ferraris, Pcars, Mclarens, etc. It's a shame more genV owners don't take them out if the number really is only 5%.

FWIW, I do 1:28s on the same track in my 280whp 3100# m3. The Viper only managed a 1:30.6, so it gives an idea of just how much grip was lacking from these tires. I can't wait until my track wheels show up and I can go again on slicks

Well drive S2000s were doing 1:30-31s on slicks.

I wasn't meaning anything rude by any means... just watching the video you could tell you weren't near the limit of the car, and then in your writing you mentioned how rewarding the cars were to drive at the limit.

No big deal!

[pMak26]

I wasn't meaning anything rude by any means... just watching the video you could tell you weren't near the limit of the car, and then in your writing you mentioned how rewarding the cars were to drive at the limit.

No big deal!

Totally understand! And I agree, first day with this car, on hard as rock tires, definitely taking it easy!

[RedTanRT/10]

pMak fresh slicks or Hoosiers will make a big difference!! That track looks like it has some good run-off area. With all the torque the rear always comes out before the front, if you get loose on the high speed sweeper sections think in advance if you want to catch it or go 2 feet in?? Have fun and keep us posted.

[RedTanRT/10]

yeah, i'm wary of tracking too much now that the values are through the roof and replacement parts are getting more scarce. I still autocross regularly, but it would suck to have an accident and not be able to replace it. I want to do more track stuff, but i'll probably use a cheaper more available car for any big track events. aka. one of the millions of available corvettes in the world.

Hey man if get it!! Older mustangs and BMW's make great track cars and easy to repair with plenty of used parts. Plus with lower HP they'll make you a better viper driver since you won't have the power to pass most everybody!!

[pMak26]

pMak fresh slicks or Hoosiers will make a big difference!! That track looks like it has some good run-off area. With all the torque the rear always comes out before the front, if you get loose on the high speed sweeper sections think in advance if you want to catch it or go 2 feet in?? Have fun and keep us posted.

I was really hoping my track wheels that I ordered 4+ months ago would be here by now :'(. I'll be running R7s when they show up, but I went with an 18" F/R setup so I can't just put the hoosiers on the stock 18"/19" wheels.

By the time I'm done with this car my goal is to be right around 1 or 2 seconds slower than a TA2 car. Skeen does 1:21-22*s here in a TA2. Majority of that time will come from the tires. Some will come from the curbs, some aero, and some suspension.

*before they screwed up the pavement in the carousel/octopus section.

[RedTanRT/10]

Yeah 18/18 is the way to go, more wheel and tire options. After you've run the r7's for awhile, try the A-7's. After that try the Michelin slicks. A few years ago they started making a rear that has very similar dimensions (height in particular) to the 345 35 18's so you don't have to change the rear rake.

[pMak26]

Correction, I have A7s ready to go haha

Do you recall the Michelin tire sizing F&R?

Here was a list I had compiled last year of tires to consider for fun days:
Tyres
Front Toyo Proxes RR 315/30zr18
Rear Toyo Proxes RR 345/35zr18
Front Hoosier A7 295/30zr18
Rear Hoosier A7 345/35zr18
Front Pirelli Pzero DH 305/645/18
Rear Pirelli Pzero DH 325/705/18
Rear Yokohama A005 N2844 300/650r18
Front Yokohama A005 N2888 330/710r18

I ran DHs on the M3 and loved them, but Pirelli changes too much. There are way too many compounds for me to keep up with, and recent changes to the compounds. They were hard to mount and bead too.

On the viper now are just street tires that have no business being on track. Michelin Pilot Sports - 315 front and 345 rear.

[13COBRA]

I run 33/65 and 31/71 Michelins. My next set I'm going to run 33/71s in the rear.

[Viper.954]

I'm not qualified to drive a Viper on a road course.

[Rare Snake]

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Heck yes, you have to get out once in a while!
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[RedTanRT/10]

I run 33/65 and 31/71 Michelins. My next set I'm going to run 33/71s in the rear.

Nick, a 33/65 front is really big are you sure about that?

pMak The Michelins I use are 30/65 R18 fronts (which is the same size as a 315 Hoosier) and the 33/68-R18's (same height as the 345 35 18 rear Hoosiers)

[13COBRA]

Nick, a 33/65 front is really big are you sure about that?

pMak The Michelins I use are 30/65 R18 fronts (which is the same size as a 315 Hoosier) and the 33/68-R18's (same height as the 345 35 18 rear Hoosiers)

Hey, remember that time I didn't know how to use a keyboard?

30/65 up front.

[Pappy]

A 335/18 A7 on 12" wheel works up front.

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[pMak26]

Nick, a 33/65 front is really big are you sure about that?

pMak The Michelins I use are 30/65 R18 fronts (which is the same size as a 315 Hoosier) and the 33/68-R18's (same height as the 345 35 18 rear Hoosiers)

Woah really? I didn't think the 315 Hoosier would fit! Hmm... Might have to get those instead. I ordered a set f14s in 18"x11" front and 18"x13" rears.

I'm going to add the Michelins to my list.

[pMak26]

A 335/18 A7 on 12" wheel works up front.

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335! Wow! How'd you get that to fit??

[Pappy]

No changes were required to fit the 335. I have a set of Finspeed wheels with "good" backspacing - got the wheels from AZ and he ran them w/335s on his Gen V before me. Running normal track height and have experienced very little rubbing on the inner fender tubs. Early on I did have a couple of minor traction control issues with the front and rear tires not having the appropriate "Viper" stagger, but the computer figured it out and the issue went away.

[Hawk]

I’ve been running the Hoosier R7 315/30/18fronts and 345/30/19 Rears for track days on my SW2 wheels

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[ViperNC]

I'm just out there for fun and run Sport Cup 2's. If I ever get more serious then I'd upgrade to race tires. Tracking is the safest way to explore your limits with the car and maybe approach the cars limits a little closer.
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