Dream Giveaway 2009 Viper ACR February

[Viperenvy]

Imagine driving home in this 2009 Dodge Viper ACR! Enter now by going to https://www.dreamgiveaway.com/ticket...?promo=VP2021P and you'll get bonus tickets with any donation of $25 or more! Your donation will benefit veterans' and children's charities.

For VOA members, please see your email for a special offer.

The Dream Giveaway organization is happy with the partnership. The results are comparable to other, larger clubs they have partnered with in the past.

The VOA is paid 25% of the proceeds.


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[JonB ~ PartsRack]

OK, you lured me out of a posting moratorium.

VOA should be ashamed of this Slimy, Bogus, scam/sham 'charity.' Disgusting and embarrassing that the VOA actually brags to members about taking 25% away from the supposed charity recipients. Sickening, even if you planned to pay the proceeds to the SBA loan embarrassment. {You don't} "Dream = Nightmare"

This rises to the TOP of my long list of 'most hideous Viper club events ever.' List is a long track record of a LOT of questionable, scummy and even illegal events.


There is no right way to do the wrong thing.
There is no wrong way to do the right thing.

Do the RIGHT thing, dammit.

Start with your misleading thread title: "Dream Giveaway 2009 Viper ACR February"

Why 'February' ? Is the ACR 'giveaway' actually happening this month?
Or perhaps just trying to feign a rush to fool the membership..... again?
Is there a dead halibut somewhere ?

Much More sleight-of-hand discussed here:

https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...2009-Viper-ACR


Jon Brobst
Int'l Viper Registry NW Region President 93-94
Car & Driver Viper Forum co-founder 1993-4
VCA "Founding Fourteen" 1995
VCA Nat'l Secty-Treasurer 95-97
VCA Nat'l Secretary 98-99
VCA Regional President 95-02
VCA National and Regional Sponsor 96-10 (then banned)
VRL / Viper Cup Pace Car Driver & Sponsor 97-15
VOA Forum and Regional sponsor 13-present

[Mopar'er no car]

OK, you lured me out of a posting moratorium.

VOA should be ashamed of this Slimy, Bogus, scam/sham 'charity.' Disgusting and embarrassing that the VOA actually brags to members about taking 25% away from the supposed charity recipients. Sickening, even if you planned to pay the proceeds to the SBA loan embarrassment. {You don't} "Dream = Nightmare"

This rises to the TOP of my long list of 'most hideous Viper club events ever.' List is a long track record of a LOT of questionable, scummy and even illegal events.


There is no right way to do the wrong thing.
There is no wrong way to do the right thing.

Do the RIGHT thing, dammit.

Start with your misleading thread title: "Dream Giveaway 2009 Viper ACR February"

Why 'February' ? Is the ACR 'giveaway' actually happening this month?
Or perhaps just trying to feign a rush to fool the membership..... again?
Is there a dead halibut somewhere ?

Much More sleight-of-hand discussed here:

https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...2009-Viper-ACR


Jon Brobst
Int'l Viper Registry NW Region President 93-94
Car & Driver Viper Forum co-founder 1993-4
VCA "Founding Fourteen" 1995
VCA Nat'l Secty-Treasurer 95-97
VCA Nat'l Secretary 98-99
VCA Regional President 95-02
VCA National and Regional Sponsor 96-10 (then banned)
VRL / Viper Cup Pace Car Driver & Sponsor 97-15
VOA Forum and Regional sponsor 13-present

All starts with the slimeball that posted it. He comes up north and stinks up the MCVO once a year as well. Just another clown...

[ViperSRT]

Concur 100% with you Jon. It is a scam that skirts the law as a charitable money raising organization.

How about if when this raffle ends some data is provided like total ticket sales (quantity and dollar amount) and actual proceeds provided to charities, and which charities.

[daveg]

Just do what I did, create an inbox-rule for that e-mail and send it to Junk.. Its a start anyways..

[HOLLYWOOD]

Bang on Jon!!! I would love to see the numbers on this as it just wreaks with monkey business.
Good call as you said what I was thinking.
I live in Calgary so there is no way my hard earned money would be going to this.
Cheers.
Faron

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Bang on Jon!!! I would love to see the numbers on this as it just wreaks with monkey business. Faron

Charity Navigators and Watchdogs have virtually nothing disclosed. 15 categories linked below reveal NOTHING!
Maybe YOU younger savvy lads can find more?

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/275011514

[ViperJon]

Can’t believe this is back after the roasting it got back in December.
I guess we can be thankful it’s not yet another post shilling for Hagerty.

[Caldermw]

I'm not out to make enemies with anybody here (especially not JonB since I buy Viper parts from him on a routine basis :-) ) but I see things differently. Anyone who doesn't want to buy a ticket shouldn't - and anyone who wants a chance at winning a seemingly terrific Viper can throw a few shillings in the pot and take their chances. No need to create divisiveness over it. Very rarely do all of a person's charitably-donated dollars go to the intended recipients of the charity, and this is no exception. Anyone bothered by that reality can ignore and decline to donate.

[daveg]

I'm not out to make enemies with anybody here (especially not JonB since I buy Viper parts from him on a routine basis :-) ) but I see things differently. Anyone who doesn't want to buy a ticket shouldn't - and anyone who wants a chance at winning a seemingly terrific Viper can throw a few shillings in the pot and take their chances. No need to create divisiveness over it. Very rarely do all of a person's charitably-donated dollars go to the intended recipients of the charity, and this is no exception. Anyone bothered by that reality can ignore and decline to donate.

I think some people question the validity of "Dream Giveaways" in general. I will raise my hand on that one.

[V10Sidepipes]

I think some people question the validity of "Dream Giveaways" in general. I will raise my hand on that one.

And the VOA (a car club that needed a government loan to survive) getting a kickback from it…