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  1. #26
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    I hope you did not use the gaskets in the pic.

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    That is not my exhaust, just a pic off the internet to show where the sensors are.

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    The metal oem gaskets are bullet proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    That is not my exhaust, just a pic off the internet to show where the sensors are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    The metal oem gaskets are bullet proof.
    Reuse them or get a new OEM pair when doing headers? I’ll be installing ARH during winter.

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    I'll triple that and say that does sound great!

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    Sounds Great, that's always been my dilemma also! I want a Tune more than Anything but I just don't think it's worth throwing away my Mopar Warranty, Almost Maybe but not Quite Your car looks Awesome too, perfect color & Everything

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    Thanks for the comments!

    Matt, yes, perfect color LOL!
    Funny we have same first name too...

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    I agree on the color....!!

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    LOL, triplets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwa_viper View Post
    Reuse them or get a new OEM pair when doing headers? I’ll be installing ARH during winter.
    They are reusable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    I wasn’t able to get a pic as when I picked it up, it was already off the lift but here’s about where the 2nd sensor should be...

    Attachment 45294

    Secondary o2 does not go there. It goes just after the cat. At least thats how my Belangers came...


    https://driveviper.com/forums/cache....psfb6aicqr.jpg

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    Also,

    the longer I have my car with the belangers, the more i do not like the sound. Its never been "great" only good. Im seriosuly thinking about getting the corsa catback instead. I wish my Viper could sound like my SRT10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperPete View Post
    Also,

    the longer I have my car with the belangers, the more i do not like the sound. Its never been "great" only good. Im seriosuly thinking about getting the corsa catback instead. I wish my Viper could sound like my SRT10.
    Same. I've had Belanger headers and HFC for 3 years and I'm making the switch now - Corsa with catless J-pipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver7iron View Post
    Same. I've had Belanger headers and HFC for 3 years and I'm making the switch now - Corsa with catless J-pipes.
    What don't you like abut the Belanger headers and HFC? When you switch are you going back to stock headers or whats your plan?

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    Secondary cats do go where I posted pic, new design.

    The sound of my car is perfect!!!!!!!
    Loud, has perfect tone, and even sounds so good when shifting gears,
    heads turn before they even see the car now...
    I have the headers, 1 ho flo cat on each side, and race mufflers.

    Is the sound too loud for you is why you don’t like it?
    Last edited by Sniper; 09-30-2020 at 08:27 PM.

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    Sniper - First off, your car sounds incredible. I might be wrong but your car sounds different than some of the other Belanger setups I have heard. I've been putting off headers/exhaust for 4yrs now (mostly because of my extended warranty) but I'm thinking of getting myself a nice Christmas present this year. I was thinking ARH with Corsa but after hearing your car you have me thinking Belanger again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver7iron View Post
    Same. I've had Belanger headers and HFC for 3 years and I'm making the switch now - Corsa with catless J-pipes.
    On a G5 Stock PCM ?!


    A LOT of different factors define the predictable sound profile. And YES, The Year Matters.

    At least you know your take-off Belangers / HFCs have a resale value in classifieds...but you might wait a few weeks/miles.

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    Fulltilt, thank you!
    I can honestly say the sound matches the car now.

    I can’t comment on Corsas, never heard in person.

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    Question: if I went the avenue of PCM, which one does anyone suggest?
    Arrow or HPTuners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargerMan426 View Post
    People say that but when you dyno 2.5 and 3 back to back the 3 will have more power....at least in the V8 world. Engine Masters did an episode on it. Actually, they went as far to show that you'd be better off running a larger header pipe and dinging it as needed vs running a smaller size tube.
    It's all about the area under the torque & hp curves. I'm sure the 3" produced better peak numbers, but the 2.5" produced more area under the curves....over all more power across the rpm range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB ~ PartsRack View Post
    On a G5 Stock PCM ?!


    A LOT of different factors define the predictable sound profile. And YES, The Year Matters.

    At least you know your take-off Belangers / HFCs have a resale value in classifieds...but you might wait a few weeks/miles.
    Jon, can you elaborate on the years making a difference, please?

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    Lou Belanger was steadfast about using the 2.5 tubes. However, the HC/9L seemed to be less forgiving, in other words there were some hp restrictions with some exhaust systems..That is a heads-up not a negative on 2.5 tubes . Lastly, I do not believe there has been a comparison of 2.5 vs 3 tubes on a HC/9L
    Last edited by Jack B; 10-01-2020 at 07:07 PM.

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    Here’s pic where 2nd O2 sensor is...

    CD71A3D7-A185-4F78-81CB-7E401407E292.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulltilt View Post
    Jon, can you elaborate on the years making a difference, please?

    Many well-meaning posters ASSume their answer is accurate and helpful. But often it is NOT an apples-to-apples comparo. Unless the year-model-mods-PCM program are the same as the inquiring owner has, or intends, some forum replies wont be relevant or accurate.

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    Can i ask a question, what did you do re the upstream O2 sensors with the bung situated at the end of the collector, did you use an extension? the reason i ask, my sensor wires now dont reach the bung, i did not get upstream extensions with my kit
    and im being told by belangers that i dont need the the sensor in the collector, im sure that it monitors AF??

    any ideas here


 
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