Since it appears face masks will be around for a while

[bluesrt]

cumos is the nasty one, hmmmm, remeber the guy he verbally attacked in his yard when the guy called crissy out , boy was he a nasty boy that day!!!! lol

[Bill Pemberton]

You believe the guy who came on Chris's property uninvited , but you assume Chris is guilty. No charges were filed and who knows who was right? I elect to not take sides as I do not know the exact situation. I do have a little issue with someone coming on someone else's private property and making claims , but at this point who really knows the actual event. The key is Chris and his wife both tested positive and a friend and past Viper owner who saw him later said he looked wasted.

The real issue here is what is the purpose stating he did not have Covid, he did - no compassion for those that get this nasty illness.

[Sniper]

Here ya go!
https://youtu.be/FCBRQWmwK5Q

[99RT10]

Exactly (wrong).... this is not a political issue, it's a medical safety issue. Stop making it one and think of the safety of your friends and family. The sacrifice this country has made during via past generations pales in comparison to being asked to wear a mask to ensure you don't affect others. That people are so selfish, self-centered and self righteous not to do that is mind boggling; though that also says a lot about the ethics of this generation.

.... Hope that you all who don't believe in wearing masks go out and get it. Maybe that is what it will take to humble yourselves.

No, it's a control issue, and sheeple like you are lapping up the Kool-aid. Keep sucking it down until you find yourself in a box car heading to an oven................ TDS is a real thing for you guys on the left coast.........

[mitchdob]

No, it's a control issue, and sheeple like you are lapping up the Kool-aid. Keep sucking it down until you find yourself in a box car heading to an oven................ TDS is a real thing for you guys on the left coast.........

Yea, this conversation looks to have brought out the best of the VOA. What a chicken shit.
.... you a paid member? Figures.

[Bill Pemberton]

That even looks like one of the sketchy videos we have been warned about being done in all avenues of American Society, but with the changing climate and as we learn more and more about transmission things have changed. It was heavily noted as being on surfaces and other places for hours or days , initially , and now it is being discussed by the CDC and WHO as being definitely extremely airborne and much more than we thought. Masks are being suggested by CDC, WHO, Fauci , and more, but I guess the whole issue comes down to it being such a minor inconvenience and it might save a friend's life so why not be so concerned about yourself and think about others. I know when I worked in Hospitals and Operating rooms , the masks you see today were pretty much state of the art and surprisingly Doctors and Nurses seemed to think they were beneficial in operating rooms , certain labs ,etc.

The only argument here is it all about you or if you could add an extra safeguard for your Dad , Grandfather or Grandmother, or a compromised friend will you do it?

[bluesrt]

you guys with the masks on, your gonna get it sooner than later anyway, so you may as well get it while your healthy and get immune to it!!!!! lol, just stay away from old people and frail people so you dont give it to them...

[Sniper]

Lol it’s your story, tell it how you want it.

You read it on the mask box and then heard it from the horses mouth and still don’t believe it.

Free Kool-Aid if anyone wants any!!!

[Bill Pemberton]

I know from Fox News to CNN they have alerted gullible Americans that video posts are being doctored from Overseas at an alarming rate, and that is one very poor You Tube video and the voice does not always match. But you know what , I could care less , as this Virus mystery is constantly changing and the revelations about it and how to treat it change daily. We have gone from Ventilators to 100% Oxygen and getting patients on their stomachs to working on new cocktails for those affected that may shorten the disease. I question many things , but I am open to the fact that it is a rapidly changing environment.

The key is I can drink the Kool Aid if it means a fellow friend of mine on VOA feels safer. BlueSRT I am one of those old and health compromised folks and so are a ton of Viper Owners on this site , since age, respiratory issues ( Asthma, COPD ), high blood pressure, diabetes are just some of the issues. I only have a few , but it still puts me at risk and as I walk through the grocery store it just seems considerate that the individual I walk by may also have some of those issues so I am maybe protecting them.

Age is not a guarantee , as one of our Mgrs. wives has Stage4 Cancer ( 34 years old), another salesman has an autoimmune disease, two others are diabetic ( though young) , so I elect to be considerate of my fellow man. I guess you are just all about you , and I only hope you don't visit any older aunts , uncles or grandparents in the future. Got a feeling even you might change your tune if you infected them?!

But hey , why not wear a mask to protect your fellow VOA members on this Forum , as I could name plenty of them who have some of the concerning health issues or are just old folks ---oh whoops, forgot you aren't a member so I guess you probably could care less?

[whitebeard]

As a member of EMD for +30 years, I fully understand the use of a mask. It is designed to protect others from the possible infection from the wearer. Having one is NOT going to save you, it has to be put on correctly. Having worn them for some time and in very different situations, it takes time to become acclimated to it. But I have had to be quarantined for 6 days and was sick. One of my coworkers as diagnosed positive for COVID, and I had just worked with him. I put my wife (who has lupus), my bonus daughter, and my 5 grandkids at risk. Not by my own fault, but still I did. So yes I wear a mask until I get told it is safe

And I work for the city of NY in the Bronx at PSAC2 (Public Safety Access Center) with NYPD, FDNY/EMD and 311. I follow the rules send down to me by folks at 1PP and 9 Metrotech (yes there is a place called 1PP)

Does this make me part of the koolaid drinkers?

[Bill Pemberton]

No Whitebeard, it makes you one of the Heroes!!!!!!!!!!

[Bill W]

1. A lot of this mask wearing is political propaganda from the left. In other words, Demoncrat Party.
2. If I wear a mask and have COVID-19, it might protect you if I sneeze or caugh or laugh in your face.
3. Most masks won't protect protect you from getting COVID.

[whitebeard]

1. A lot of this mask wearing is political propaganda from the left. In other words, Demoncrat Party.
2. If I wear a mask and have COVID-19, it might protect you if I sneeze or caugh or laugh in your face.
3. Most masks won't protect protect you from getting COVID.

Reply in order
1 Unless you can get an exact number of who is infected (not just a sample of population, but exact identification of people infected), wearing some type of PPE CORRECTLY is the only hope to the average individual.

2 Might, but that again depends if you have configured the mask to your face correctly. Particles or water droplets of infected saliva or mucus can still become airborne.

It isn't all dependent on a mask, but on hand washing, and situational awareness. You would not or can not walk into a hospital without some type of PPE

[City]

Is it possible to keep this about the author's intended topic? I added a link to viper and mopar related masks. That is the subject matter. Can we kindly stick to it!

[01sapphirebob]

Id go for a Viper mask!

[Bill W]

Reply in order
1 Unless you can get an exact number of who is infected (not just a sample of population, but exact identification of people infected), wearing some type of PPE CORRECTLY is the only hope to the average individual.

2 Might, but that again depends if you have configured the mask to your face correctly. Particles or water droplets of infected saliva or mucus can still become airborne.

It isn't all dependent on a mask, but on hand washing, and situational awareness. You would not or can not walk into a hospital without some type of PPE

Exactly. Most folks don't wear the mask correctly or wear the right mask for ultimate protection. Most masks will not protect you from getting COVID. Period!

[99RT10]

Yea, this conversation looks to have brought out the best of the VOA. What a chicken shit.
.... you a paid member? Figures.

Bite me sheeper..............

[99RT10]

As a member of EMD for +30 years, I fully understand the use of a mask. It is designed to protect others from the possible infection from the wearer. Having one is NOT going to save you, it has to be put on correctly. Having worn them for some time and in very different situations, it takes time to become acclimated to it. But I have had to be quarantined for 6 days and was sick. One of my coworkers as diagnosed positive for COVID, and I had just worked with him. I put my wife (who has lupus), my bonus daughter, and my 5 grandkids at risk. Not by my own fault, but still I did. So yes I wear a mask until I get told it is safe

And I work for the city of NY in the Bronx at PSAC2 (Public Safety Access Center) with NYPD, FDNY/EMD and 311. I follow the rules send down to me by folks at 1PP and 9 Metrotech (yes there is a place called 1PP)

Does this make me part of the koolaid drinkers?

Not at all Art, you are doing what you have to for multiple reasons. Simply it is a personal choice based on multiple reasons. I am old and susceptible because of being a male and my blood type. I simply accept the fact this diese will catch up to everybody. As time goes on, the death rate is dropping precipitously. I expect by Nov 3, it will not be talked about or worried about much.............

[SlateEd]

Unless the mask is an N95, it will not protect the wearer. What a mask like that does do is to help protect others...it keeps the shit coming out of your mouth and nose from flying everywhere. That seems to be the fundamental misunderstanding in this country - there aren't enough N95 masks to go around, and the ones we do have need to be saved for the people that truly need them (medical workers in high risk environments). That doesn't mean other types of masks aren't effective, but they also don't work like people expect they should. This meme explains it with a picture better than I can with words (photo originally credited to a Reddit post):



Bottom line: the masks most are wearing protect the others around them, but not the wearer. So if some moron is standing there yelling "BUT MUH FREEDOM", they don't get it. They are also putting you at risk. People in this country think this is about making a choice to not protect themselves - I get that, but that's not how this works. If one person decides to not wear a mask and is carrying the 'rona, it is screwing over everyone else around them. That's why some places are now requiring them, which of course is making people even more upset and leading to meltdowns complete with "BUT I HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION". Being stupid generally isn't considered a medical condition. It also doesn't help that people don't seem to grasp that both your mouth AND nose have to be covered for it to work. Nothing about this situation is going to change until people start caring about others more than themselves. I don't wear my mask for me - I wear it for you. I'm hoping that others will extend me the same courtesy, but to date, I've been let down every single time I go out in public.

And now I'll see myself out of this thread.

/rant

Thank you Steve M for that!! Dead right, and the pee example says it well (and is hilarious).

[Sniper]

Agree with City and have to question the authenticity of this box. I have gotten numerous packages ( for personnel passing out food to those affected ) and have not seen anything with a listing like this on any of them. Now, saying that I could sure see a company deciding to post something like this to avoid legal complications if someone is wearing a mask and they get Covid-19 ( and want to blame it on something ). Like City, please go ask your friends working in the Medical Field, Grocery Stores , etc., if a masks work? Better yet view what WHO states along with groups of Doctors Worldwide. Heck, what not chat with your friends who have had the disease or have died , er.........................dang I have three friends I can no longer ask.

9/11was a time we came together as a Country, and this another occasion where we need to come together Societally -- how hard is it to protect you family, your grandparents or other fellow humans at risk. I know a bunch of Viper owners out there who are very much at risk of getting Covid, if nothing else be considerate for them.

Box was bought at Walmart and it is authentic. Denials a hard thing to live by...

[Bill Pemberton]

.......I see you only read part of the paragraph, as I mentioned I could see a company posting that to avoid litigation. Said I hadn't gotten a single package with any similar reading on the outside but that I could see a company fearing a legal situation and doing for their presumed protection. Speaking of denials , please deny that was what I said....

By the way , what in the heck were you doing buying masks, don't you know they don't work!

Seems the bottom of that paragraph was not read and I guess consideration of others , even family, is not important to you so no use to continue any further , you stated your case.

Time to listen to the moderator and discuss the masks the Western Reserve wants to sell to other VOA Members as a money making program with part of the proceeds likely to go to charity.

[Sniper]

Haha that was a good come back, made me chuckle.
I bought for this very reason to show people that believe every word out of the medical industry like it’s the gospel truth.

[Sniper]

In all honesty, I do not want anyone to get any kind of disease and I do have feelings for others.
I just believe there is a bigger agenda behind all this and people aren’t seeing it.
Odd too today coins are hard to come by and you can only use exact cash or credit.

[Bill Pemberton]

I'm done because now we are into conspiracy theory and apparently the Worldwide Medical community has gotten together to fool us. Gotta be an awful crowded room for them to get together, but how did the folks get together since flights to Europe are restricted?

This is a disease not politics , that is a fact, and right now this is simple situation, nothing is 100% effective but I am going to work towards human consideration ---

Definition;
Consideration ---- I wear a mask to protect you , so please wear a mask to protect me.

[Sniper]

Just don’t stick your head in the sand. Germans thought the same way and man were they wrong...