Drive cycle for Viper

[RedTanRT/10]

Happy to help. Sent you a PM just now. Heading to Laguna Seca tomorrow. Call in the window I referenced

[Bryan Savage]

I see there's another thread by the OP to sell this car. I'm guessing the ECU issue wasn't reasonably solvable.

From the previous posts, I have deduced the OP bought the car in North Carolina and moved it to California.

For starters, looks like only 22 out of the 100 counties in North Carolina even require emissions tests. https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/title-regi...spections.aspx

For vehicles registered in those counties, the "emissions inspection consists of connecting a certified analyzer to the vehicle's OBDII system to verify that all vehicle emissions components/systems are working per the manufacturer specifications along with a visual safety/tamper inspection." https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/a...ts-information

From the description in the link above, it would seem that if you wanted to register the vehicle in one of those 22 counties, they should plug in a OBD2 scanner and see if there's any active codes. There's no detail about whether or not inactive codes could cause a car to fail an emissions test if the MIL is not illuminated. That would be a question for the selling dealership in this case.

This also assumes that the seller is responsible for emissions testing all their cars for sale. I'm not able to find that easily in North Carolina's regulations. It could be the case that car dealers are only required to provide a passing emissions test for the standards of the county their dealership is located in. They have no control over where the buyer is going to attempt to register the vehicle, and therefore, I would think, no responsibility to ensure that a used car could be registered anywhere in the world after it leaves the lot. If that was the case, say goodbye to all used car sales.

Due to Vipers having side-exit exhausts, it's not really possible to do a visual check for emissions equipment. I also don't see any mention of a tailpipe sniffer test being required for North Carolina's programs. They probably checked to make sure the MIL turns on when the car is started, and then turns off. Maybe look for active codes. If there's none, the car passes.

So unless there's a huge decal that's easy to see near the ECU that says "Hey man, this car ain't 50-state legal anymore" that the seller blatantly ignored during a visual inspection, I'd say it is up to the buyer to ensure the vehicle they're buying will pass the emissions standards for the area which they plan to register it. I would not think that there is any recourse whatsoever to the selling dealership about this.

Now, I'm not from California, but I would bet at least fifty cents there's THOUSANDS of non-compliant vehicles running around in that area. It would be up to the OP to figure out the same loophole. Selling the car due to this (if that's the case) seems like it should not be necessary.

[JGK95]

Is this thread resolved or do people need the secret sauce to have a car that can both Mopar PCM and OEM PCM?