Why the Gen 5 Viper will go up in value

[zee]

Little video I made showing some reasons why I think the Viper will go up in value - Obvious reasons to most viper owners but still good to get more content about our cars to the general public. Hope you guys like some of the drone shots and stuff we took. Trying to get better!

[Dsjp916]

Well done. Man I hope you’re right on this one bc I go back and forth on whether I want to sell mine constantly.

[ACRSNK]

Nice video that interior makes your car VERY special not too many with the Demonic Red interior looks great with the Classic white blue color scheme

[StrokerAce]

I can tell you this much. If my car were to go up say 20% it's gone. lol

Thing is, I see the same year/miles/trim as mine listed for 20% more than I paid but I don't think they are selling for that.

[Scott_in_fl]

Nice vid.

I agree and think you nailed it when you said that the best chances for appreciation are the ACR extreme, especially well spec'ed ones and SE models. That is what has been borne out thus far and there is no reason why that does not continue.

There are some dynamite 1-of-1's that will bring all the money 5, 10, 20 years from now. And I agree with ACRSNK that you have a dynamite combination yourself with the red interior. Awesome!

[Bruce H.]

Zee, I hope you don't mind a suggestion. That was really light on content, long on prediction that the V10 NA and manual will make it collectible.

Maybe challenge yourself to make a video with an outpouring of passion for the car...from the lustful and iconic shape, the feeling when you slide behind the wheel and are surrounded by that great interior that fits you like a glove, looking out over that enormous carbon fiber hood, firing the engine, the unique side exhaust, the feeling of limitless power, the thrill of the long first gear that's enough to get you thrown in jail in many areas, the next 5 gears that urge you to explore, the incredible handling, the car inspiring desire to become a better driver, the admiring glances and thumbs-up everywhere you go, the anticipation of the next special occasion to fire it up and take it for a spin, and the joy of just raising the garage door to admire its unique beauty.

Emotion creates enthusiasts and that's what draws them to certain cars. Vipers are pure emotion that the specs never did adequately convey. Big NA and a stick hooked some buyers for sure, good predicted value might get a few more, but it's just poor salesmanship to let anyone think that's where the appeal starts or ends. We've seen many buyers motivated by that hype that couldn't even put break-in miles on them before moving on to the next shiny object, or nothing at all.

Talking value just sells the car short, cheapening the car in a way, and the last thing that'll get enthusiasts excited. Emotion and desirability is where it's at for enthusiasts... and that's what will take care of lasting demand and values, not fickle collectors or Barrett-Jackson.

Love to see a video like that!

Bruce

[zee]

Zee, I hope you don't mind a suggestion. That was really light on content, long on prediction that the V10 NA and manual will make it collectible.

Maybe challenge yourself to make a video with an outpouring of passion for the car...from the lustful and iconic shape, the feeling when you slide behind the wheel and are surrounded by that great interior that fits you like a glove, looking out over that enormous carbon fiber hood, firing the engine, the unique side exhaust, the feeling of limitless power, the thrill of the long first gear that's enough to get you thrown in jail in many areas, the next 5 gears that urge you to explore, the incredible handling, the car inspiring desire to become a better driver, the admiring glances and thumbs-up everywhere you go, the anticipation of the next special occasion to fire it up and take it for a spin, and the joy of just raising the garage door to admire its unique beauty.

Emotion creates enthusiasts and that's what draws them to certain cars. Vipers are pure emotion that the specs never did adequately convey. Big NA and a stick hooked some buyers for sure, good predicted value might get a few more, but it's just poor salesmanship to let anyone think that's where the appeal starts or ends. We've seen many buyers motivated by that hype that couldn't even put break-in miles on them before moving on to the next shiny object, or nothing at all.

Talking value just sells the car short, cheapening the car in a way, and the last thing that'll get enthusiasts excited. Emotion and desirability is where it's at for enthusiasts... and that's what will take care of lasting demand and values, not fickle collectors or Barrett-Jackson.

Love to see a video like that!

Bruce

You mean like these ones??

[Gen5snake]

Buy it, drive it, enjoy it.

[Bruce H.]

You mean like these ones??

This one!

You expressed the passion you felt for the Viper and TA 100%, and in a way that an enthusiast would be inspired to go check out a Viper. That was just so full of must own want...well done! Maybe link it to your ACR vids because even when you check out your site it's a long ways down the list.

Bruce

[Vipes]

Nice vid Zee!! I had all those same thoughts myself. Highest HP N/A V10 ever made, manual trans, hand made, low production, half carbon fiber exterior, technically mid engine, track king, epic/timeless looks. There is just nothing else like it! Now the older I get the less I care about it's value since we can't take our money and gold with us so I'm never selling mine, will put miles on and enjoy it to the end.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Nice vid Zee!! I had all those same thoughts myself. Highest HP N/A V10 ever made, manual trans, hand made, low production, half carbon fiber exterior, technically mid engine, track king, epic/timeless looks. There is just nothing else like it! Now the older I get the less I care about it's value since we can't take our money and gold with us so I'm never selling mine, will put miles on and enjoy it to the end.

Agreed 100%, now this is what these thing are for....driving and enjoying these incredible cars. It is such a treat and privilege to see these these cars on the road. In fact, I drove my 06 4000 miles from Calgary to the closing of the Viper plant a few years ago. Let the values fall where they may but I say enjoy. I will eventually buy a FE but not today. These G5's had a tough time with motors but I think the 2017's are the way to go. jmo

[Bruce H.]

These G5's had a tough time with motors but I think the 2017's are the way to go. jmo

Some feel the best motors (and full powertrains) to own are in 2013 and early 2014's because many of them are still under the full factory 10 year extended warranty until 2023-2024!

[bluesrt]

My 2014t/a runs strong and burns no oil, it's a true monster

[Larryskillzs]

I'm never selling the Viper, but I think all Vipers will hold value very well. While the ACR will hold a higher value, that's because it cost more initially.

I wish more ACR owners took it to the track to understand how awesome it really is.

[Bruce H.]

I wish more ACR owners took it to the track to understand how awesome it really is.

This...and with all other Viper models too! But let's start small by encouraging street driving beyond the closest Cars and Coffee! Haha, j/k, well sort of

[Mark1107]

Anybody got the cliffs?

[Policy Limits]

It checks every single box. V10 with manual transmission, naturally aspirated, hand built, low production volume, racing history and track records. The very last year of 2017 being the 25th anniversary is really significant too. They will hammer for 300-350k in the coming years. 5-6 Gen Vs already hammered over 200k so far. The value of it being an irreplaceable component of supercar history transcends any pricetag though.

[Matt Dillon]

I got a lil' excited from the Headline when you said about the Gen. V going up in Value but then in your post you said the ACR's! Probably should have just said ACR's in your Headline!

[Scott_in_fl]

Agree w Policy. And it is pure Americana -- it proved that big front engine/rear drive cars could compete against the best tech that the rest of the world could muster. Likely never to be replicated on such an extreme scale ever again.

[Bill Pemberton]

Reality, not perception , is that the Viper has had a nice steady climb since it ceased production. Now , the reality has changed with the Virus and values are dropping a bit and will probably wait to continue their climb once the economy gets back on track. Nothing earth shattering here, just common sense and what we have seen with automotive history.

That said, the rise in value of TAs, Launch Editions, unique GTCs that are not ACRs, show that there will likely be a rise in values across the board and not just with the ACRs. I know that since Viper production stopped we got more calls from non Viper owners deciding they needed one in their collection, etc. I know John Gastman at Roanoke saw some of the same situation. When folks who have not been on the Viper bandwagon start getting excited it shows a change in interest. Loud, huge motor machines are not the wave of the future, and I have to believe they will give people a unique and electrifying experience not the same from our future battery slingshots. Just looking at the first wave of muscle cars ( 60-70s ) and it sure seems Snakes will lead the charge in the future when the second wave entices the new generation of collectors and enthusiasts.

[swexlin]

Took mine off the tender and out of the garage for first time in 9 weeks yesterday. Just cruisin' around local. I couple at least two thumbs from younger folks on the highway. These cars still have an appeal.

[Bill Pemberton]

As swexlin stated.......so completely simple and so true!! Thumbs up !!

[HOLLYWOOD]

Some feel the best motors (and full powertrains) to own are in 2013 and early 2014's because many of them are still under the full factory 10 year extended warranty until 2023-2024!

Hi Bruce. The problem with this is if someone needs a motor in 2023 or 2024 they are basically screwed as there is no way one will be able to get a motor other that having to bore it out providing the block is not damaged. I know these were spinning bearings so all I know is I would not want a re-bored block with a car that has 20K on it. The biggest problem I see is the parts are drying up and these cars will be sitting in garages for months until some manufacturer steps up if they even do and start making reproduced parts. All I know is FCA is moving on. All of us will be at some time will be stuck with parts that are impossible to find. I hate even thinking about not being able to get a new fog light for my 06 as these pockets are a vacuum for rocks.

[Policy Limits]

The sad reality is that any gain is negated by the devaluation of our currency due to the current economy. I was painfully reminded of this when commenting on a Fakebook post about a Diablo. It was a shared memory from ten years ago of how it sold for 160k. I commented on how it had doubled in value since then. Someone else chimed in and opined that there theoretically is no gain if an American dollar is worth 50 cents. The good news is that the President is going to rebuild the economy a second time, hopefully bigger and better than before.

[Scott_in_fl]

Hi Bruce. The problem with this is if someone needs a motor in 2023 or 2024 they are basically screwed as there is no way one will be able to get a motor other that having to bore it out providing the block is not damaged. I know these were spinning bearings so all I know is I would not want a re-bored block with a car that has 20K on it. The biggest problem I see is the parts are drying up and these cars will be sitting in garages for months until some manufacturer steps up if they even do and start making reproduced parts. All I know is FCA is moving on. All of us will be at some time will be stuck with parts that are impossible to find. I hate even thinking about not being able to get a new fog light for my 06 as these pockets are a vacuum for rocks.

If they can keep vintage Triumphs (total POS's mechanically speaking), old Ferraris (also POS's), and air-cooled Porsches running today, then I think we'll be just fine.