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    Oil Cooler Lines

    Received my oil cooler line replacements for my 2013 GTS since mine started leaking recently. Thinking about changing them out myself to save a few bucks from having the dealership do it for me. Wanted to ask if anyone has had to replace their lines and if so, was it a simple process to do? After looking at where they are located, one seems like it may be a pain to get to on the engine. Any info to make it go smooth for me would be greatly appreciated before I get started. I purchased the lines from RS Motorsports, racingSolutions.com.

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    It won't be exactly the same since this is for a Gen III/IV, but it will get you where you need to be since this problem has been around since 2003:

    https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...acement-Gen-IV

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    I guess it depends on how much practice? My Viper tech at my dealer has done so many, I think it took him under two hours to do mine a coupe years ago, and that included an oil change.

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    Make sure you have the release tool before you start.

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    Oh no! Don't have that release tool you speak of. Is it a must have item to have and use? Or can I get by without it somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRH62 View Post
    Oh no! Don't have that release tool you speak of. Is it a must have item to have and use? Or can I get by without it somehow?
    I didn't use a release tool for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRH62 View Post
    Oh no! Don't have that release tool you speak of. Is it a must have item to have and use? Or can I get by without it somehow?
    Don't think theres a release tool needed. Didn't need anything special when I did mine.

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    Thanks for the info everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Make sure you have the release tool before you start.
    You mean a wrench? That's all I needed to get the old lines off and the new ones in. You don't need a release tool for anything if you're swapping the lines out.

    OP here's the adjustable that I used which worked great to remove the old lines and to install the new ones on the block end. It helped that it's a short wrench with thin jaws. Granted I had my oil pan off so the angles might be different to get to the fittings on the block than with the pan on.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VBPY8Z6...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

    Also just a tip with those RSI lines, make sure they're optimally angled as you tighten them down. One of the lines does not have much if any extra length so you want it to be aimed in the best direction to make it reach the oil cooler in a straight shot. If it is angled the wrong way down at the block, the other end of the line wont reach to oil cooler or it will but it could be pulling/straining the line.
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    I recently changed my oil cooler lines on my Gen IV ACR. I bought RSI lines and had Viper Exchange replace them and do an oil change. I normally do most of my own work but after looking at the job I decided to let the pro do it. Well worth the money IMO.

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    I looked at the lines and it does appear it could be pain in the wrist for sure. I'll probably end up taking mine to my viper tech and let him do it also. I do have an appointment setup for the Saturday if I can't do it.

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    Here is the section from the manual, my car does have quick-connects:


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    Yeah that's if you're trying to disassemble the line itself. If you're removing the line from the oil cooler and block you just unthread it from those points.

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    What am I missing - those are quick-connect fittings for removal of the hoses, why would you want to remove the permanent threaded fittings?


    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    Yeah that's if you're trying to disassemble the line itself. If you're removing the line from the oil cooler and block you just unthread it from those points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    What am I missing - those are quick-connect fittings for removal of the hoses, why would you want to remove the permanent threaded fittings?
    I could be wrong but don't aftermarket lines come with a threaded end that replaces the OEM piece completely?

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    Correct. After market oil cooler lines for these cars replace both the lines and the threaded bungs at both ends.

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    What is the cost of the aftermarket lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    What is the cost of the aftermarket lines.
    You can build the lines yourself for a bit cheaper then what it would cost to buy them already built. Think I bought all the parts for my lines through Jegs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01sapphirebob View Post
    You can build the lines yourself for a bit cheaper then what it would cost to buy them already built. Think I bought all the parts for my lines through Jegs.
    I recently did this for my Gen2 oil cooler lines using hoses and fitting from Aeroquip. Will probably do the same for the GenV when it's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    What is the cost of the aftermarket lines.
    You seriously do not want to know. There are several versions. Thing a grand for the top of the line pre-made lines from one of the supporting vendors. Don't ask me how I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGeorge View Post
    You seriously do not want to know. There are several versions. Thing a grand for the top of the line pre-made lines from one of the supporting vendors. Don't ask me how I know.
    The base version from Viper Specialty is $374 for the pair of lines. The other versions that do indeed go up almost to $1k are only needed if you value your time more than most, since they offer quick disconnects at the engine side, oil cooler side, or both, which makes the install much, much easier.

    Yes, the price is steep, and I'm sure there are other vendors out there that charge less for a similar product. Dan uses top-shelf fittings, and those fittings aren't cheap - I know, because I tried to source them myself at one point. The base versions use the proper swivel fittings that terminate in the required o-ring boss configuration - no adapters needed. That's the reason I went with his so many years ago when I needed to replace my lines - 7.5 years to be exact after looking at my maintenance spreadsheet. The fewer connections you have, the lesser chance you have for failures.

    The stock lines will eventually fail at some point. It is a poor design, and there's nothing you can do to fix it. If you don't mind replacing them every so often, then so be it...it looks like they can be had for around $200-ish, maybe less. Even better if you have an extended warranty that covers them. I didn't purchase an extended warranty with mine, so when it was time to replace mine at 10k miles when they started leaking, I wanted to do it once, and do it right. I've never worried about them since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M View Post
    The base version from Viper Specialty is $374 for the pair of lines. The other versions that do indeed go up almost to $1k are only needed if you value your time more than most, since they offer quick disconnects at the engine side, oil cooler side, or both, which makes the install much, much easier.

    Yes, the price is steep, and I'm sure there are other vendors out there that charge less for a similar product. Dan uses top-shelf fittings, and those fittings aren't cheap - I know, because I tried to source them myself at one point. The base versions use the proper swivel fittings that terminate in the required o-ring boss configuration - no adapters needed. That's the reason I went with his so many years ago when I needed to replace my lines - 7.5 years to be exact after looking at my maintenance spreadsheet. The fewer connections you have, the lesser chance you have for failures.

    The stock lines will eventually fail at some point. It is a poor design, and there's nothing you can do to fix it. If you don't mind replacing them every so often, then so be it...it looks like they can be had for around $200-ish, maybe less. Even better if you have an extended warranty that covers them. I didn't purchase an extended warranty with mine, so when it was time to replace mine at 10k miles when they started leaking, I wanted to do it once, and do it right. I've never worried about them since.
    I know. I went with Dan's top of the line lines for my 9 liter upgrade. With the money I'm spending on the engine I might as well not cheap out on the oil lines. His stuff is top shelf.

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    Such a long discussion over...oil cooler lines. They're easy to replace, you don't need to buy the top of the line ones for $1000, you don't need to use a special line disconnect tool to remove them. /thread

    $250 RSI lines.
    http://www.racingsolutions.com/produ...n-5-viper.html
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    At that price I am going to buy a set as spares. I released the oem lines when I pulled my engine for the 9L install and did not like the fragile design of the quick-connects. They have not leaked as of yet, but, they do not give me a good feeling.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    Such a long discussion over...oil cooler lines. They're easy to replace, you don't need to buy the top of the line ones for $1000, you don't need to use a special line disconnect tool to remove them. /thread

    $250 RSI lines.
    http://www.racingsolutions.com/produ...n-5-viper.html
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    These are the same lines that I have purchased. Quality product for sure!



    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    Such a long discussion over...oil cooler lines. They're easy to replace, you don't need to buy the top of the line ones for $1000, you don't need to use a special line disconnect tool to remove them. /thread

    $250 RSI lines.
    http://www.racingsolutions.com/produ...n-5-viper.html
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