Toyo R888R Tires

[CNU_Physics]

I put R888Rs on my car last year, the traction is insane compared to the Corsa. I can stomp it to the floor at 20mph and it will just hook and go. No wheelspin at all. Anyways you wanted pictures, I have a whole gallery set up of when I put them on:

https://imgur.com/gallery/nDGAsAl

Stock tires stacked:
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Toyos stacked:
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Toyos installed on the car, rear shot:
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[Sniper]

Nice!
What’s your thoughts on width of tires compared to stock on rears?
Do they look as wide?

[Camfab]

I agree with CNU, these hook hard especially if you’re above stock power levels.

[CNU_Physics]

Nice!
What’s your thoughts on width of tires compared to stock on rears?
Do they look as wide?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they run about the same width as the Corsas despite being a 345. Look on TireRack.com, you can compare the dimensions that way. Trust me, you would be happy with these tires unless you are a huge track rat. Street driving, they are incredible.

[Sniper]

Street use only.
What’s your thoughts on noise?

[CNU_Physics]

Yeah it has noise that you can hear once you start moving over 45mph, but imo it's not that bad at all. Like I said, the grip is insane, and I'll take a little bit of noise any day for what it gives. I think these tires are a lot more forgiving even when cold compared to a Corsa or Cup2 as well. They seem to still grip very well even when not at their optimal temperature. The Corsa I remember was definitely not like that.

I've driven these in the rain as well twice. I've never hit a huge puddle or anything, but I didn't die either. It didn't get loose on me or do anything out of the normal. I don't recommend though and I do my best to try and avoid rain situations, because these tires are pretty much racing slicks so you never know how it will react when wet.

[Vipes]

I've run PSS, A7's, PZero's, Corsa's, NTO5R, Hoosier DR2's, R888's and R888R's. Of that group, the Hoosier A7's are the best at cornering/track use and DR2's win for straight line dig traction hands down. The PSS and PZero's are good if you want to give up WOT 1st and often 2nd gear traction. A lot enjoy these tires because of the longer life and they do well in rain but personally they suck all the fun out of driving a viper IMO. The R888R's are my favorite by far, the perfect jack of all trades tire. The R888R noise isn't anywhere near as bad as the old R888's, which is where most of the complaints you hear came from. For everyday street use, you will enjoy the car 10X more on an R-compound tire. Corsa's if you drive in the rain often but the Toyo's offer a lot more traction at the cost of simply avoiding downpours. The 345's don't look any smaller to me when mounted up but I've noticed it really seems to bother some people who lose their 355 bragging rights at their local cars n coffee meet.

[Vipes]

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Here are a couple more pics to help compare the width. Pic 1 are the 355 Corsa's, pic 2 345 Toyo. Hard to tell the difference, I think the Toyo's may run wide.

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[Sniper]

One odd thing I noticed from the pics is the tread pattern is different on fronts and backs.
Left side tread goes down and right side tread goes up.

[Vipes]

One odd thing I noticed from the pics is the tread pattern is different on fronts and backs.
Left side tread goes down and right side tread goes up.

Yeah they used to make them directional (non-R's). Now they are just labeled "outside", they are asymmetric but they don't make a left and right. The grove direction doesn't effect dry performance and are just for moving water. Toyo claims that the angle in which they run has no impact on the aquaplaning performance. Even if that claim isn't true they suck overall in water regardless so it's a moot point. My OCD noticed it also but I was able to get over it, they are amazing tires.

[chris1992]

Another R888R fan here. I liked the Corsa’s too, but I could not hook up in 1st gear to save my life..I no longer have traction issues with the R888R.

I cannot visually tell a difference in width between the 355 Corsa and 345 R888R. I will say that the fronts are noticeable wider even though I bought the R888R in the factory size (295/35/18).

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[SRT_BluByU]

I don’t know why anyone would want the R888R over the Pirelli Corsas for street driving ’s now that they’re available. The Pirelli’s have no weakness and are really good tires..i have 16,000 miles on my second set and about 3/32-4/32 remaining.. work well in rain, quiet, good grip...

But are $

My apologies BluByu but the comment that the Corsas have no weaknesses needs to be modified in one area in my estimation - track usage. Yes, they are a decent street tire , though quite expensive, but many of us have had issues with them on track. They chunk badly , especially on the front, for those really quick drivers, so many prefer other options if they plan to do HPDEs or Time Trials. Now , after saying that , the R888R has potential concerns too, and we probably had more complaints after installing these on Vipers than any other tire I remember --- they are noisy and quite a few individuals found this disturbing. The other situation that can occur , depending on the part of the Country you live in, is that they are absolutely horrible in the rain - downright dangerous. Don't believe me, just check Toyos own notices and also when referring to that, note they recommend this tire for autocross or road course use only.

That leaves ( for Gen III thru Gen V ) a couple of tires I think work great for street driving and even an occasional HPDE for those just looking for a fun time, and they are the Pilot Super Sport and the Pirelli P Zero. The PZero is alot less than a Corsa, rides well, and sheds water fantastic, and was original equipment for most Vipers. The Michelin Pilot Super Sport is an older generation tire, but the compounding is different than in the past ( noted by some friends at the Bibendum Plant ) and they are great in rain, quiet and still stick decent. Don't worry about the 345/19 size as it was what came on Gen IIIs and Gen IVs , anyway -- work fine.

Now call Jon B. and he can get any of them, but more importantly he can listen to you and decide what is the best remedy for where you life, how you drive , and what will match your budget the best also. Good luck!

I agree exactly Bill.. thats why i specifically said for street tire... for the street, besides $, they have no weakness... for the track.. run track pads and track tires. Easy.

[No hemi]

345 toyo,s are about 1/2 inch wider than 355 Pirellis( ive had both and measured them side by side), also LOVE how the toyo's hook, after my first set was done I bought a set of Pirellis and couldnt hook on the first 3 gears, I'm waiting for my second set of toyos to get here and already sold the Pirellis to a friend of mine who is a bit less aggressive driving .

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Bonus: OUTSIDE shoulder tires can be rotated L-R without a dismound-rebalance. DIRECTIONAL cannot.

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Still concerned about the [imperceptible] 5mm inside / outside shoulders? Get 4/16" 5/16" 6/16" spacers and lugs.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Another R888R fan here. I liked the Corsa’s too, but I could not hook up in 1st gear to save my life..I no longer have traction issues with the R888R.

I cannot visually tell a difference in width between the 355 Corsa and 345 R888R. I will say that the fronts are noticeable wider even though I bought the R888R in the factory size (295/35/18).

You really mean 295-30-18.... not 35.......... signed: Nit-Picker

[Sniper]

Just seen these tires in person on my cousins car and they are good looking!!!!!!!

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Looks are just a bonus...........

[Sniper]

Jon, trying to wrangle some money together so I can buy a set from you as I’m having car paint corrected, wrapped on front bumper-hood-side sills, and ceramic coated.
The set I have on car now is the original tires.

[ViperTim]

I have yet to tried the R888R, how do they feel compared to R888?
I'm running R888 on my Gen 2 because simply it was the cheapest option. And I was worried about running them in the rain.
So far, knock on wood, I've never had an "oh shit" experience in the rain with them. They feel pretty solid in rain. Though i try to avoid the biggest storms.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Clarifying: Anyone running "R888" tires, these were discontinued some years ago, so your tires are OLD.

The newer technology is the R888R, the topic of this thread..... Tire debuted in Viper sizes in mid 2018 as I recall....

If you get caught in a downpour, with ponding/puddling, or wet snow-tire ruts, SLOW DOWN. You would likely do this on Michelins or Pirellis. Ironic that in competition events, the R888 / R is considered a RAIN TIRE vs a tru race slick. Good drivers wont pucker.

[MoparJohn]

Since everyone is offering opinions. Toyo 888R. Great for track and handle well. I hate the noise they generate though. Makes me think my diff is going to explode. I won't be buying another set. The Corsa. Great for street, but in my opinion they give up after 3 or 4 laps. Once they get hot they get slick. Right now I am running the Sport Cup 2's and have found it to be a great street tire and a good track tire. I will me making the move to Hoosiers for the track next time out.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Jon, trying to wrangle some money together so I can buy a set from you as I’m having car paint corrected, wrapped on front bumper-hood-side sills, and ceramic coated.
The set I have on car now is the original tires.

You have been my customer since 2002..... dozens of orders. Thank You.
Ill ship tires today and gladly hold off cashing your check a while? No Problem

[Dan Cragin]

The Toyo's are a good track day tire and fair on the street. Good for modified cars with too much power for the stock tires. They are a bit noisy and don't work well when cold or in the rain. They don't heat cycle out as fast as the Sport Cups.
Being a DOT track tire, don't expect them to last long on the street, more so with sport alignment. Priced right.

[Sniper]

Jon, I thank you very much for just being a great guy. I don’t know many people that would send thousands of dollars worth of stuff without having money in hand. You have earned a loyal customer today.

I don’t drive my car in the cold, I don’t track my car, and I don’t drive it in the rain so these tires are perfect for what I need.
I’ve never had a Viper tire that ever got traction in the cold or rain...

[Sniper]

Does anyone recommend filling these tires with nitrogen and if so, what pressure?