Anyone got an Nth Moto clutch laying around

[Arizona Vipers]

so is it slipping or hard to 1st gear or both? if all the rest of the gears work like butter, you have a bad pressure plate

It was just first, slippage and hard to get into 1st, but the new master fixed it.

[Arizona Vipers]

There are many confusing comments in this thread:

1. I have a hard time understanding how a bad master cylinder affects 1st gear, but, not "on the track" .shifting. Did I mis-interpret that statement?

2. In your comment above, I am not disagreeing, just explain?

It was just a tiny internal leak. Not sure how to explain it, but replacing it fixed the issue. And it only affected the car when it sat for awhile. Like when I would come off track then first gear was fine again.

[Nth Moto]

Going to first gear from neutral/park requires the input shaft (which is spinning at engine idle RPM when clutch is engaged) to match speed with the stationary gearset in the transmission without any output shaft speed (vehicle not moving) which is very difficult to do without the clutch operating correctly by relieving the drive speed from the input shaft. Whereas, shifting between forward gears with both input and output shaft speed already in motion is far easier, therefore requires the clutch to function less. In a synchronized gearbox the synchros themselves will do a lot of the speed matching, but it takes a toll on them much quicker without the clutch releasing correctly.

It's the same reason you can technically shift gears without a clutch if you're talented at timing shifts, but you still can't get it moving or into a motion gear happily if it's not operating correctly.

[Jack B]

It was just a tiny internal leak. Not sure how to explain it, but replacing it fixed the issue. And it only affected the car when it sat for awhile. Like when I would come off track then first gear was fine again.

That sort of makes sense, but, is it possible new fluid and bleeding fixed the problem

[Arizona Vipers]

That sort of makes sense, but, is it possible new fluid and bleeding fixed the problem

It could have been that as well, as we did both at the same time. That fluid was technically many years old as it had never directly been bled.

[Jack B]

It could have been that as well, as we did both at the same time. That fluid was technically many years old as it had never directly been bled.

It would be nice to know, however, it is fixed, that is the important issue.

If you parked it overnight or longer, would it grind all the time at start-up?