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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    I can't. LOL. I'm at 803whp now. I'd have to add turbos and that's opening up another whole can of worms... I'm in unlimited class already.
    Damn that's a lot of rwhp! Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    I can't. LOL. I'm at 803whp now. I'd have to add turbos and that's opening up another whole can of worms... I'm in unlimited class already.

    What tuning platform and fuel are you using to get that much power?

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    I ran into a couple of guys in the Atlanta Airport on Monday that were on their way to Sebring for an event this weekend. They have their Cup cars trucked to about 12 events a year and they just fly in, drive, and go home. No shortage of serious $$ effort. They invited me to come out and hang out with them, but I can't make it this weekend. I just took 30 lbs out of the firewall and 17 lbs out of the floorboard with my most recent mods. My AP brakes will be delivered on Friday and I should be able to save 15-20 lbs over the StopTechs. The problem is I've kind-of lost the bubble on where I am with weight, but I think I am making serious progress. The last time I scaled the car was before the Tilton carbon clutch, the MW 7075 aluminum driveshaft, and the new rear suspension. Still have the new exhaust system to go (which may add a little weight)- then I can reassemble the thing and get it on the scales. I'm hoping for 2600#, but realistically expecting 2800#.

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    AP Brakes for the ACR-E? I spoke to Essex Parts early last year and they didn't offer a package. If you don't mind could you PM the part numbers needed to complete the conversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmut View Post
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    AP Brakes for the ACR-E? I spoke to Essex Parts early last year and they didn't offer a package. If you don't mind could you PM the part numbers needed to complete the conversion?
    Yes if running steels would be great to get skeletinised Calipers and get rid of big heavy CCM Calipers

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    Try Shields - they make all my plastic windshields ... they use a specially coated polycarb that is scratch/marr resitant, similar to MR10 lexan. If they havn't done a Viper before you could probably send them your windshield and have them make a formed mold and then mass produce

    http://www.racingshields.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperDai View Post
    What tuning platform and fuel are you using to get that much power?
    It's a Prefix built 13 to 1 compression, solid cam, 9.0 liter. I run C12 for fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I ran into a couple of guys in the Atlanta Airport on Monday that were on their way to Sebring for an event this weekend. They have their Cup cars trucked to about 12 events a year and they just fly in, drive, and go home. No shortage of serious $$ effort. They invited me to come out and hang out with them, but I can't make it this weekend. I just took 30 lbs out of the firewall and 17 lbs out of the floorboard with my most recent mods. My AP brakes will be delivered on Friday and I should be able to save 15-20 lbs over the StopTechs. The problem is I've kind-of lost the bubble on where I am with weight, but I think I am making serious progress. The last time I scaled the car was before the Tilton carbon clutch, the MW 7075 aluminum driveshaft, and the new rear suspension. Still have the new exhaust system to go (which may add a little weight)- then I can reassemble the thing and get it on the scales. I'm hoping for 2600#, but realistically expecting 2800#.

    Pappy
    Yeah that's what this guy does, multiple big rigs show up with his car, he just gets in and drives. Nothing wrong with that if you don't have the time to take care of everything yourself. Time is money!
    Cool on your '56 dude! Can't wait until it's done! What's the ETA? 3-4 more months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by efnfast View Post
    Try Shields - they make all my plastic windshields ... they use a specially coated polycarb that is scratch/marr resitant, similar to MR10 lexan. If they havn't done a Viper before you could probably send them your windshield and have them make a formed mold and then mass produce

    http://www.racingshields.com/
    Thanks buddy, they already emailed me back! Check it out- https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...dshield-needed

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    Ok, so the 2003 through 2017 windshields are all the same and this company already has the Gen 4 mold so they are making me a windshield for $520. Not bad! Will save 8 lbs. http://www.racingshields.com/
    Scot at Prefix sent me these pics, they have a Gen 5 there now with their lexan windshield installed. This Gen 5 looks HARDCORE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    Ok, so the 2003 through 2017 windshields are all the same and this company already has the Gen 4 mold so they are making me a windshield for $520. Not bad! Will save 8 lbs. http://www.racingshields.com/
    Scot at Prefix sent me these pics, they have a Gen 5 there now with their lexan windshield installed. This Gen 5 looks HARDCORE!

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    AZ, just curious, do you hit the head before going out on track to lose a few more pounds? Given how light your car is it might actually be significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGeorge View Post
    AZ, just curious, do you hit the head before going out on track to lose a few more pounds? Given how light your car is it might actually be significant.
    lmao. yeah and i sodium deplete for 3 days before each event

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    Ok, so the 2003 through 2017 windshields are all the same and this company already has the Gen 4 mold so they are making me a windshield for $520. Not bad! Will save 8 lbs. http://www.racingshields.com/
    Scot at Prefix sent me these pics, they have a Gen 5 there now with their lexan windshield installed. This Gen 5 looks HARDCORE!

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    My teammate Michael's car. Full race car built off G5 ACR by Complete Performance. It has so much cool work done to it.

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    I'd say you definitely made an excellent run on used tires up against a full team prepped 911. You shouldn't feel too bad about that and already answered your question by saying you would have found another second with fresh rubber. With that said, I applaud your efforts to get quicker and lighten the car further. It will feel good to run against the "Rich Porsche Guy" again and beat him convincingly. Always feels good to beat people like that and remind those guys they aren't as elite as they think they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simms View Post
    My teammate Michael's car. Full race car built off G5 ACR by Complete Performance. It has so much cool work done to it.
    Yeah it looks hardcore for sure!!! Share some details!!!!

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    I just order a new windshield for the ACRx from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM View Post
    No real weight savings on poly carbonate window vs factory glass. Hard to beat a cup car and 991 cup car to boot. Lots of driver aids and data and an extremely well developed platform for racing. A good crew and driver and cup cars are extremely good and very hard to beat. You still have power to weight over the cup car and your viper is much easier and more forgiving to drive then cup car. Rather then throwing money and parts at your car work on setup and the freebies first, then goto onboard data and pro driver coaching. Not saying your a bad driver Arizona Vipers; It helps alot to have a second set of eyes with experience see where you can improve. .4 seconds slower I think your doing pretty dang good when you look at what your up against.
    GT3 991.2 Cup Cars do not have any driver aids, no abs.

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    No, they don't. I have one, and I know the gentlemen AZViper is talking about, he is on my race team. The cars don't have it, Porsche North America didn't allow ABS until announcing its 2020 option class this last Saturday. They don't have TC either.

    Quote Originally Posted by TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM View Post
    991.2 cup cars run manthey ABS system ( or similar) which is very advanced and tune able ABS system. Traction control was more then likely also added. If the guy or gal isnt running in a pro sanctioned events or series everyone adds ABS and traction control systems. Saves the customer alot of money in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM View Post
    I just figured since AZ viper was running amateur NASA and alot of cup guys who run NASA , PCA etc events only with their cup cars have added ABS and TC as little edge and safety. AZ viper has his work cut out for him if your team mate was running raw.
    Our cars are raw by Trophy West Series reg. They announced a change in policy this weekend, permitting ABS in the coming 2020 season, which is a bit frustrating since the season is about to begin, and A. availability of parts is unknown, and B. the price point isn't cheap. But, since a lot of the drivers will be converting, you have a competitive disadvantage if you don't follow suit.

    I know where AZViper could really bring down the weight, and it would actually save him money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM View Post
    Well we have officially hi jacked AZ vipers post. Sorry AZvipers. We ran a GT3R with pirelli west last year at sonoma. We have probably crossed paths in the garages at some point. West is a good series, low low stress, well run and great for driver development.
    Im sure the ABS system is homologated so no chance going outside the box?

    AZ viper needs to check all the free boxes first then go on to spending a little cash if he needs to.
    You need to know AZ Viper. He brought himself up from a novice to holding several NASA track records through sheer dedication and determination. He is aggressive and has his own driving style - and he is fast! Whether he is driving his ACR-E, his 9-liter monster, his AMG, his son's Civic Type R, his Ford GT......you get the idea......he can be counted on to be very fast in class. He knows what he is doing and he will be competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Our cars are raw by Trophy West Series reg. They announced a change in policy this weekend, permitting ABS in the coming 2020 season, which is a bit frustrating since the season is about to begin, and A. availability of parts is unknown, and B. the price point isn't cheap. But, since a lot of the drivers will be converting, you have a competitive disadvantage if you don't follow suit.

    I know where AZViper could really bring down the weight, and it would actually save him money.
    Will Doug be able to get ABS done in time for the first event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    You need to know AZ Viper. He brought himself up from a novice to holding several NASA track records through sheer dedication and determination. He is aggressive and has his own driving style - and he is fast! Whether he is driving his ACR-E, his 9-liter monster, his AMG, his son's Civic Type R, his Ford GT......you get the idea......he can be counted on to be very fast in class. He knows what he is doing and he will be competitive.

    Pappy
    Thanks Pappy! I forgot to give you your seat at the party! Do you want me to bring it to INDE? See you in a couple days!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    Thanks Pappy! I forgot to give you your seat at the party! Do you want me to bring it to INDE? See you in a couple days!!
    Forgot all about it. Yeah, if you have room I can take it at Inde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    Put it this way, Cup Cars can run 2.10 at COTA. The fastest a stock ACR has ever gone there is me, a 2.21. A few heads/cam cars have gone 2.19 ish. A pro driver with my race car might do a 2.14 there. Cup cars are cup cars for a reason, it's the best Porsche can do, unlimited funds for engineering. It won't happen again, I'll just make sure to bring new tires. Having a brand new Cup Car in your class= Your tire budget for the year just skyrocketed. LOL
    Interesting. Just read that SW ran a 2.17.9 on stock Kumho's in his 700hp ACR at COTA. Not sure if he is anywhere near your weight though so you may be faster than a 2:14 on equal tires as the cup car? According to his post on RL, his friend did a 2.16 in a GT3 non-RS on stock Michelin's but with cup car suspension. That is insane. The GT2 RS MR must be cup car fast or faster then.
    Last edited by Snakebit10; 02-06-2020 at 06:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit10 View Post
    Interesting. Just read that SW ran a 2.17.9 on stock Kumho's in his 700hp ACR at COTA. Not sure if he is anywhere near your weight though so you may be faster than a 2:14 on equal tires as the cup car? According to his post on RL, his friend did a 2.16 in a GT3 non-RS on stock Michelin's but with cup car suspension. That is insane. The GT2 RS MR must be cup car fast or faster then.
    Yeah keep in mind no gators. That's 2-3 seconds. You lose 3-4mph all the way through the S's with the gators in. In a non officially timed event there's seconds to be made elsewhere, like by going way out on turn 19. With nasa you get DQ'd for any of this.


 
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