Bleed brake clutch system

[ViperPete]

My understanding is that the Gen V has a self bleeding brake/clutch system and I just pump the clutch to get teh air out.
Is that correct?

[Steve M]

That's my understanding...you'll know pretty quick if it doesn't work.

[Jack B]

It absolutely works, but, it may take a while

[ViperPete]

It absolutely works, but, it may take a while

Can you elaborate?

[LATAMUD]

Oh this is interesting, how does this work? Did Dodge eliminate the bleeder screw on the Gen5? This should be adaptable to other generations.

[ViperPete]

Oh this is interesting, how does this work? Did Dodge eliminate the bleeder screw on the Gen5? This should be adaptable to other generations.

My understanding is that all one has to do to bleed the system is pump the clutch, and it self-bleeds. I don't know how much pumping it takes though.

[bluesrt]

shure thing, fill and pump your heart out on the clutch-

[Steve-Indy]

My understanding is that the Gen V has a self bleeding brake/clutch system and I just pump the clutch to get teh air out.
Is that correct?

NOT EXACTLY...the clutch shares the reservoir with the brakes. The clutch is "self bleeding"...BUT, the brakes are NOT.

From the 2014 Viper Service Manual CD:



BLEEDING LINKAGE

NOTE:


If the clutch slave cylinder or plumbing line has been disconnected or replaced, bleeding air from the hydraulic system may be necessary. The hydraulic fluid reservoir (1) is shared with the hydraulic brake system and is linked to the clutch master cylinder through a fluid supply tube (2). The pressure line linking the master cylinder to the slave cylinder is routed in a downhill configuration. Air that may be trapped in the master cylinder, slave cylinder, and lines will travel upward through the supply tube and into the brake/clutch reservoir. There is no bleeder valve on the slave cylinder."

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STANDARD PROCEDURE - ANTILOCK BRAKE SYSTEM BLEEDING

The base brake's hydraulic system must be bled anytime air enters the hydraulic system. The ABS though, particularly the ICU (HCU), should only need to be bled when the HCU is replaced or removed from the vehicle. The ABS must always be bled anytime it is suspected that the HCU has ingested air. Under most circumstances that require the bleeding of the brakes hydraulic system, only the base brake hydraulic system needs to be bled.

When bleeding the ABS system, the following bleeding sequence must be followed to insure complete and adequate bleeding.

1.Make sure all hydraulic fluid lines are installed and properly torqued.

2.Connect the scan tool to the Data Link Connector. The connector is located under the lower instrument panel to the left of the clutch pedal.

3.Using the scan tool, check to make sure the ABM does not have any fault codes stored. If it does, clear them using the scan tool.






WARNING:


When bleeding the brake system wear safety glasses. A clear bleed tube (1) must be attached to the bleeder screws and submerged in a clear container filled part way with clean brake fluid (2). Direct the flow of brake fluid away from yourself and the painted surfaces of the vehicle. Brake fluid at high pressure may come out of the bleeder screws when opened.




4.Bleed the base brake system using the standard pressure or manual bleeding procedure. (Refer to 05 - Brakes - Standard Procedure)

5.Bleed the base brake system a second time. Check brake fluid level in the reservoir periodically to prevent emptying, causing air to enter the hydraulic system.

6.Fill the master cylinder reservoir to the full level.

7.Test drive the vehicle to be sure the brakes are operating correctly and that the brake pedal does not feel spongy.
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[dsp300c]

i took all my calipers off the other month to get them painted. put them back on and bleed the brakes with a buddy of mine the normal way. no fancy devices or ways. start at farthest corner, pump as much as you need, hold, open valve, bleed.....keep repeating and move on to the next caliper.....and so on

[ViperPete]

Does anyone know the size of the fitting that goes into the ABS module from the master cylinder?

[Steve M]

On my Gen 4, the fittings at the master cylinder are 10mm x 1.0 for the front brakes, and 12mm x 1.0 for the rear brakes. I'm not sure what goes into the ABS module, but I'd guess it is probably one of those two, assuming the Gen 5 has the same stuff as the Gen 4.

[ViperPete]

On my Gen 4, the fittings at the master cylinder are 10mm x 1.0 for the front brakes, and 12mm x 1.0 for the rear brakes. I'm not sure what goes into the ABS module, but I'd guess it is probably one of those two, assuming the Gen 5 has the same stuff as the Gen 4.

Yeah after a lot of driving to multiple places- its 12mm x 1.0. They both appear to be the same size- front/rear