APR Carbon AERO Installed Sneak Peak First

**ACR-ISH** · 08-14-2019

Originally Posted by 13COBRA

If you can't find them, I have a friend that if you send him your mirror covers he can mold them and send you back your originals plus CF ones.

That sounds amazing, but ludicrously expensive!

**13COBRA** · 08-14-2019

Originally Posted by ACR-ISH

That sounds amazing, but ludicrously expensive!

He's EXTREMELY affordable actually. I've had him do a few pieces for me.

**ACR-ISH** · 08-14-2019

Originally Posted by 13COBRA

He's EXTREMELY affordable actually. I've had him do a few pieces for me.

I'll definitely keep that in mind. I have some other items I'd be interested in! Mirrors sound quite involved. Time IS money.

**13COBRA** · 08-14-2019

Originally Posted by ACR-ISH

I'll definitely keep that in mind. I have some other items I'd be interested in! Mirrors sound quite involved. Time IS money.

He can do anything from a mirror cover to full body panels.

**inquirer86** · 08-14-2019

That looks amazing and I'm extremely jealous

..... By raising it do you mean going to stock height?

Edit: definitely can't wait for more pics....might push me to give JonB a call for more parts lol

**ACR-ISH** · 08-15-2019

Originally Posted by inquirer86

That looks amazing and I'm extremely jealous

..... By raising it do you mean going to stock height?

Edit: definitely can't wait for more pics....might push me to give JonB a call for more parts lol

Thanks! The build is definitely the fun part!

Going to raise the rear enough it doesn't rub... .5-.75". I have coil overs installed currently, so ride height is adjustable. I get a ton of compliments on blacking out the tail light panel, too. Just couldn't spend $2300 on such a small item. Ouch. More pics will follow in the Gen5 pics thread.

**ACR-ISH** · 08-15-2019

Originally Posted by inquirer86

That looks amazing and I'm extremely jealous

..... By raising it do you mean going to stock height?

Edit: definitely can't wait for more pics....might push me to give JonB a call for more parts lol

Are you on Sidewinders? You should post some pictures of yours! Looks clean!

**inquirer86** · 08-15-2019

Originally Posted by ACR-ISH

Are you on Sidewinders? You should post some pictures of yours! Looks clean!

Yeah I'm on SW2's. I will at some point, still stock minus rock guards.

**ACR-ISH** · 08-16-2019

Awesome color and wheel combo! Love those wheels!

**Lawineer** · 02-21-2021

Hate to bump a thread from the dead, but how has it held up? Have you taken it over 140 with the wing? Does it stress/crack/deform the trunk?

Looks great, btw.

**nwa_viper** · 02-22-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

Hate to bump a thread from the dead, but how has it held up? Have you taken it over 140 with the wing? Does it stress/crack/deform the trunk?

Looks great, btw.

I’ve had mine 185mph with the aero kit installed. Probably not something I’d do for any extended length of time but no issues.

**Arizona Vipers** · 02-22-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

Hate to bump a thread from the dead, but how has it held up? Have you taken it over 140 with the wing? Does it stress/crack/deform the trunk?

Looks great, btw.

If you look at a stock ACR and see how it's mounted, you will have no fears of this wing... It's basically 4 tiny bolts that miraculously hold it on. Calvo cars have hit like 230 without any additional bracing.

**Pappy** · 02-22-2021

When we compared the deck lids on AZ's 2013 and my ACR, there was no difference. When we installed his ACR wing, I did build this carbon fiber "dog bone" stiffener as a precaution, but I don't think it was really necessary. It is bonded in with a 3M panel adhesive. I looked at AZ's car the other day and it seems to be holding up well - he has been to pretty high speeds lots of times!

Pappy

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**Lawineer** · 02-22-2021

**AAA96** · 02-22-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

Does the car have upgraded rear suspension to handle the increase in downforce? Just curious.

**nwa_viper** · 02-22-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

Looks like the Agency Power wing. My friend has the same one on his ‘16 red GT. It sits up a little higher than my APR but is similar. He doesn’t drive as fast as I do but he’s had it on several tracks with no issues.

**nwa_viper** · 02-22-2021

Here’s the best pic I had with both cars in it from Viper Rendezvous last year. Shows the APR vs Agency Power.

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**Lawineer** · 02-23-2021

Originally Posted by AAA96

Does the car have upgraded rear suspension to handle the increase in downforce? Just curious.

No, it doesn't. I'm not too concerned about that. It won't even make 300lbs of downforce until 120mph. And that's CFD (computer simulation). I'm sure it will make lot less real world due to air not being perfectly smooth coming in.
I'd probably remove it for track use, simply because downforce in the rear (and drag) will only hurt the car unless I seriously upgrade the front aero.

But it does look cool.

edit: Does anyone have experience to the contrary?

**Arizona Vipers** · 02-23-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

No, it doesn't. I'm not too concerned about that. It won't even make 300lbs of downforce until 120mph. And that's CFD (computer simulation). I'm sure it will make lot less real world due to air not being perfectly smooth coming in.
I'd probably remove it for track use, simply because downforce in the rear (and drag) will only hurt the car unless I seriously upgrade the front aero.

But it does look cool.

Don't remove it for track use. You won't really notice it unless you are really pushing the car hard. I'd trade a little understeer for being able to put full throttle down sooner anyday.... At slow cornering speeds where the car could understeer, it won't be putting down any noticeable downforce.

**Lawineer** · 02-23-2021

Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers

Don't remove it for track use. You won't really notice it unless you are really pushing the car hard. I'd trade a little understeer for being able to put full throttle down sooner anyday.... At slow cornering speeds where the car could understeer, it won't be putting down any noticeable downforce.

I'll try it both ways, but I would expect to understeer at high speeds with the wing, not oversteer.

I may make my own uprights and lower it a little if I dont like it.

Thank you everyone for the help. Agency makes a ton of sense because the front splitter and side-skirts match agency too.

**Pappy** · 02-23-2021

Originally Posted by Lawineer

I'll try it both ways, but I would expect to understeer at high speeds with the wing, not oversteer.

I may make my own uprights and lower it a little if I dont like it.

Thank you everyone for the help. Agency makes a ton of sense because the front splitter and side-skirts match agency too.

Removing the end plates from the wing significantly reduces the downforce the wing produces. That might be a alternative to removing the wing entirely.

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