Allpar C8 Corvette Debut Causes Renewed Demand for Viper Return

[Hathoway]

The new Corvette is a Chevy right? I just wonder will the new Vette win the "At Least It Rolls Downhill in Neutral" Award...for when it breaks down?

Not sure if anyone has seen these parodies but man...


This one sorta works with the new Vette, Mahk's comments I mean.

[ViperNC]

The new Corvette is a Chevy right? I just wonder will the new Vette win the "At Least It Rolls Downhill in Neutral" Award...for when it breaks down?

Not sure if anyone has seen these parodies but man...


This one sorta works with the new Vette, Mahk's comments I mean.

That's good for a morning laugh and my cup of coffee...

[viperBase1]

My local Chevrolet dealer had a preproduction C8 on display today and the showroom was mobbed. I can't say I saw many younger folks in the crowd. Most of the people there looked like they were retired. The saddest part was I saw our immediate past Viper Club President there in a Corvette T-Shirt oogling the car. When I saw him he ducked in shame.

N' its the same old Corvette dudes.
The younger folks of today are going the other way entirely. Electric cars with auto-pilot drive modes.

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That pic has a lot of professional service tech dudes wondering about maintenance and service.
Are they going to have to drop the engine for EVERYTHING?

[viperBase1]

The new Corvette is a Chevy right? I just wonder will the new Vette win the "At Least It Rolls Downhill in Neutral" Award...for when it breaks down?

Not sure if anyone has seen these parodies but man...


This one sorta works with the new Vette, Mahk's comments I mean.

Sad but true..

It was only a week ago that GM closed the Warren Transmission plant.
Article here: https://www.autonews.com/manufacturi...ion-plant-mich

IMO, owning a GM car under Warranty would not be a good experience. I know it hasn't been for a lot of C7 owners. Especially the ones with the A8 slushbox transmission.

[Arizona Vipers]

I'll admit I don't know my Vette terminology that well. With that said, if a base model no upgrade C8 Corvette with the base model tires, gearing, etc can do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds I'll stand corrected. I'm talking real world repeatable 0-60 times. I think it is going to require a higher price point for a buyer of a C8 to get the 0-60 times they are advertising. Otherwise why would someone pay that much more for the Z51, Z06, or ZL1 for similar performance? Maybe I'm wrong... guess we'll see.

It's be low 3's. GT3's with 500hp are 3.0. Just about every car with a DCT is low 3's these days. For example every road test I've seen on the 3900 lb 500hp Giulia's are 3.2 to 3.3. I could go on and on. Magazines have the Audi TT RS in the low 3's all the time with 394hp.

[GreenVenom]

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[gfviperman]

Engine maintenance has to go way up$$$.

And then yon have to look at that rear end ....

[dewilmoth]

The overhead interior shot showing the iPad molded into the dash looks full retard.

[SharpMan]

I love it. Ordered one and plan to daily drive it.

Give them credit where credit is due...heckuva package with some great engineering for the money!

And regarding servicing...it's a chev...I'm sure they've got it figured out.

[Pappy]

The Ron Fellows school at Spring Mountain has started getting cars (pre-production). They have announced Dealer Orientation classes in Oct. I'm not sure when regular classes will begin. These cars have Michigan plates and, based on rotor wear and some test equipment installed, it looks like they were probably used for testing.

Pappy

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[Stealth78]

It's be low 3's. GT3's with 500hp are 3.0. Just about every car with a DCT is low 3's these days. For example every road test I've seen on the 3900 lb 500hp Giulia's are 3.2 to 3.3. I could go on and on. Magazines have the Audi TT RS in the low 3's all the time with 394hp.

Can I ask why the most important thing to everyone is 0-60? How often when anyone drives their car, other than going to the drag strip, is someone primarily pulling 0-60 attempts? How does this define a track car?

[J TNT]

Can I ask why the most important thing to everyone is 0-60? How often when anyone drives their car, other than going to the drag strip, is someone primarily pulling 0-60 attempts? How does this define a track car?

I think they refer to it as "Stop Light Grand Prix Racing"..............lol !

[Bruce H.]

Can I ask why the most important thing to everyone is 0-60? How often when anyone drives their car, other than going to the drag strip, is someone primarily pulling 0-60 attempts? How does this define a track car?

To track rats it is one of the lesser important metrics, but it does give some indication of how the car accelerates.

[Stealth78]

I think they refer to it as "Stop Light Grand Prix Racing"..............lol !

Hahaha!!

[Stealth78]

To track rats it is one of the lesser important metrics, but it does give some indication of how the car accelerates.

Understood, but it seems everyone is lumping front engine rwd, mid/rear engine rwd and awd, as well as standard to DCT transmissions all into one category. Additionally I understand where it is more of a concern in the "Demon world", I have a widebody Redeye, but it was not nearly as much of a concern with my Viper's. We have seen Viper's with the proper tires cut some seriously impressive 60' and 0-60 times, especially for a car that is not designed for that as their primary performance.

[viperBase1]

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See! More bullshit twisting of the marketing message that won't get corrected. At least they dropped the part about it being "for less than $60K!".

Its the Z51 + the Z51 Performance Package that is needed to achieve that special stat. So it'll cost between ~$74K - ~$80K+.

I love it. Ordered one and plan to daily drive it.
Give them credit where credit is due...heckuva package with some great engineering for the money!
And regarding servicing...it's a chev...I'm sure they've got it figured out.

No Sir, the paper tiger doesn't deserve it YET.

Another statement from the Professional Service guys is that the GM engineering team has a well established track record of not giving any thought to service and maintenance.
They leave it up to the Service department to figure it out after the fact.
Its a GM car.. they still haven't figured out a boat load of issues with the C7.

The good news is that more of the C7's are falling out of warranty and the after-market will be kicking in to provide solutions.
This will provide another measure and a better itemized list of "GM quality" shortcomings.

The question remains, how do you access the different parts of the engine? It's not looking good from the top!
N' why don't they include this info. in the marketing material?

Understood, but it seems everyone is lumping front engine rwd, mid/rear engine rwd and awd, as well as standard to DCT transmissions all into one category.

The comparisons have been never ending and absolutely ridiculous.

It's been declared that the C8 is going to kill the market of any and all other cars being manufactured today. Its been absolutely ridiculous.

The Ron Fellows school at Spring Mountain has started getting cars (pre-production). They have announced Dealer Orientation classes in Oct. I'm not sure when regular classes will begin. These cars have Michigan plates and, based on rotor wear and some test equipment installed, it looks like they were probably used for testing.

Good and bad news.

Looking forward to hearing some real world evaluations of the car.
The pre-production part is a little troublesome.

[ViperNC]

The Ron Fellows school at Spring Mountain has started getting cars (pre-production). They have announced Dealer Orientation classes in Oct. I'm not sure when regular classes will begin. These cars have Michigan plates and, based on rotor wear and some test equipment installed, it looks like they were probably used for testing.

Pappy

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And hopefully some factual information will start coming out rather than propaganda and marketing BS. There is always a bunch of mythological crap floating around until the new car is put to the test by an independent and credible source. If the numbers hold up, then good for them. If they embellished, that will hurt sales.

[ViperJon]

If the numbers hold up, then good for them. If they embellished, that will hurt sales.

Very very slightly at best. I'm sure 99% of them will never see a track.

[CNU_Physics]

Cannot wait to see the next C8 Z06 and ZR1. I think this thing is incredibly badass.

[ViperSmith]

The new Corvette is a Chevy right? I just wonder will the new Vette win the "At Least It Rolls Downhill in Neutral" Award...for when it breaks down?

Not sure if anyone has seen these parodies but man...


This one sorta works with the new Vette, Mahk's comments I mean.

Considering how many Viper Gen V engines grenaded, drank oil like a drunken sailor, had sludge in the cooling channels, I don't think Viper owners should be critiquing Chevy's build quality.

[commandomatt]

Considering how many Viper Gen V engines grenaded, drank oil like a drunken sailor, had sludge in the cooling channels, I don't think Viper owners should be critiquing Chevy's build quality.

Considering you are an ex Viper owner and will most likely never own one again, maybe you should just go away once and for all. Not sure why you insist on showing up and make comments that comes down to truly nothing more than trolling. Buy your Mclaren already and join some forum where your opinion may make a difference

[Pappy]

Looks like it has a tendency to "push". In all seriousness, I don't know who's fault it was. Occurred in a pack of Corvettes in California. Knocked the rear end out of the white Explorer and heavy damage to the left front of the red pick-up. A pretty heavy hit.

Pappy

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[ViperSmith]

Considering you are an ex Viper owner and will most likely never own one again, maybe you should just go away once and for all. Not sure why you insist on showing up and make comments that comes down to truly nothing more than trolling. Buy your Mclaren already and join some forum where your opinion may make a difference

How many Gen V's did you buy again?

Zero.

Unlike you, I have experience with QA issues on the Gen V. Dodge owners should not be casting stones at other domestic brands for quality.

[commandomatt]

How many Gen V's did you buy again?

Zero.

Unlike you, I have experience with QA issues on the Gen V. Dodge owners should not be casting stones at other domestic brands for quality.

Arrogant as always, you think you know all who bought new cars.

Not everyone chooses to fill their signature lines with info. Imagine that

My 2017 ACRE that I ordered from Bill, is sitting peacefully at rest in my garage last time I checked

[viperBase1]

Looks like it has a tendency to "push". In all seriousness, I don't know who's fault it was. Occurred in a pack of Corvettes in California. Knocked the rear end out of the white Explorer and heavy damage to the left front of the red pick-up. A pretty heavy hit.

Pappy

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Well... that happened sooner that I thought it would. Damn, I might have lost a bet.
Very curious to learn some details about the accident, cuz it kinda looks like the C8 jumped the double yellow and hit those two cars.

Arrogant as always, you think you know all who bought new cars.

Not everyone chooses to fill their signature lines with info. Imagine that

My 2017 ACRE that I ordered from Bill, is sitting peacefully at rest in my garage last time I checked

Oh snap!

I check my garage all the time.. n' it never gets old!