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    [QUOTE=cubican;37084]
    Quote Originally Posted by FLATOUT View Post
    So because people don't agree with you it has become "the alley"? It's ok that I don't like the VCA, and it's ok that you do. It's a big world and we all have differing opinions.


    andy, I relly hope to see you at cota, after all the work you have done on your car it will be a shame to miss it. You'r going to see many of us at the round up, and that event is put together by a member from each club. Down here in Texas non of us care for any of the BS we just want to have fun and enjoy our cars. Pedro.
    Round up is different. It's not put on by the VCA. The roundup really is just Viper owners getting together and enjoying the cars. Going to VOI means paying a fee to the VCA which means you support the lying, policies and other BS like stealing from the members. Have at it.

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    Joel, That is exactly the way it should be. We, in Ohio, always invited ANYONE with a Viper to join us ANYWHERE. It's about the car and the people, not their politics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Let me put this whole thing in terms everyone can understand. Before all this you know what hit the fan, we had almost 60 members in the club. Now, after almost of the %&it has settled, we have 16 members in VOA and 5 in VCA and another 5 who want to be in neither but pay regional dues. So what I've learned as president is that association with clubs that constantly argue over who really represents Viper owners has cost me about 40 members who really are questioning what benefit they receive from national clubs. And, since many of you have correctly pointed out the past censorship abuses by VCA, it strikes me odd that some of you want to have no news of any Viper activities unless they are sanctioned by VOA. Does irony have any meaning here? So, for at least the next 10 months, my job is to represent Viper owners in the Al/TN region and that's what I'm going to do. Viper owners are welcome at our events and we will try to make all feel welcome when they come. Isn't that what we are all about? It's cars and people - cars and people. That's all I'm going to say on the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post

    Round up is different. It's not put on by the VCA. The roundup really is just Viper owners getting together and enjoying the cars. Going to VOI means paying a fee to the VCA which means you support the lying, policies and other BS like stealing from the members. Have at it.
    No thanks, Im done with the BS, I like to live my life for today and future. Your car will look fantastic going into turn one at COTA, I hope you get the chance to run the trak at some point. See you at the round up. Cheers.

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    Video of car going into turn 1 at CoTA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP2HxCGMDR0

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    [QUOTE=cubican;37320]
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post

    No thanks, Im done with the BS, I like to live my life for today and future. Your car will look fantastic going into turn one at COTA, I hope you get the chance to run the trak at some point. See you at the round up. Cheers.
    I'll drive that track...I don't need to fund the crooks at VCA to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Video of car going into turn 1 at CoTA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP2HxCGMDR0
    love it!!! the car sounds great..

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    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.

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    srt support ?
    THE IGNORE FEATURE WORKS, TRY IT...

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    Guys - since we don't censor here, the conversation continues. However, there comes a point where it is simply poor form as a leader of another club to continue to advertise your club's sponsored event. I would say that those that want details on the aforementioned event, know were to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.
    Take this to the VCA San Antonio Board please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.
    I think you have this forum confused with one that cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.
    Off you go then. Keep funding the lies and BS. Have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.
    SRT SUPORT?

    Haha sure ok.

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    SRT supports all owners, what makes you think they will miss an event of that size having a bunch of vipers on track at COTA. Bottom line SRT is all about selling cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    SRT supports all owners, what makes you think they will miss an event of that size having a bunch of vipers on track at COTA. Bottom line SRT is all about selling cars.
    A certain letter trying to get their CEO fired comes to mind or did the few members they have left forget about that slight transgression?

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    I have read much of this event on both sites, I don't see Srt supporting Voi 13, only mis represented alliance by the other club. Smoke and mirrors like usual from the Vca circus

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    It's just like a parent with two children, one good, one evil. The parent tries to love both, no matter how much lying, cheating, stealing, grief, embarrassment, or heartache the evil child has caused.
    Last edited by daytonprowler; 03-09-2014 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Forgot to add "stealing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonprowler View Post
    It's just like a parent with two children, one good, one evil. The parent tries to love both, no matter how much lying, cheating, stealing, grief, embarrassment, or heartache the evil child has caused.
    Very well said………….and I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkrn View Post
    I have read much of this event on both sites, I don't see Srt supporting Voi 13, only mis represented alliance by the other club. Smoke and mirrors like usual from the Vca circus
    They got a reprimand for twisting the dick winkles visit to fl into a VCA/SRT relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonprowler View Post
    It's just like a parent with two children, one good, one evil. The parent tries to love both, no matter how much lying, cheating, stealing, grief, embarrassment, or heartache the evil child has caused.
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    Very well said………….and I agree
    Quote Originally Posted by MTGTS View Post
    They got a reprimand for twisting the dick winkles visit to fl into a VCA/SRT relationship.
    Now they are bombarding our VOA National and Regional Facebook accounts trying to say everything is all better, we can have two clubs. Everything is all puppies and kittens. LOL

    It's all Kumbaya now after they found out their lying tactics didn't work.

    They will bombard all VOA members with VOI emails because they have all your email addresses. They have no shame.

    These are the same people who have stolen your region's dues for the last part of 2013.

    They are foregoing an awards dinner for their VOI. They destroy a 20 year old institution, drive 34 Viper club regions away, consistently lie, etc., I think they are wise to cancel an awards dinner.

    Bottom line is they need your $$$$. They are not doing anything for the Viper community except keeping it divided, it's only a handful of VCA people with their huge egos that are fueling this.

    On the other hand, they do have something fun planned at VOI. I hear they are having a petting zoo at VOI. Please come pet our mascot VCA rattlesnake, it won't bite.
    Last edited by daytonprowler; 03-09-2014 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTGTS View Post
    They got a reprimand for twisting the dick winkles visit to fl into a VCA/SRT relationship.
    I think they're getting a reprimand soon for embellishing about the *support* from SRT for VOI too. Seems to be news to some folks at Chrysler.

    In the end, VOI has nothing to do with, and no support from, the VOA so why is this even being discussed here? We don't need this trash here.
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    Agreed Tony!

    Now Randall, release the infinite amount of register and event details for the Detroit Homecoming! Once released, there is not even going to be a discussion as to which one to support and which one is worth the money. Despite being on two different dates, it is like paying the same amount but one is a Bush League Junior B Hockey game and the other is an NHL hockey game. One is not even worth mentioning or talking about.

    BTW Doris is a member here and we all know who really runs the roost in that household as in most all family households, DA MOM. Ralph will do what he is told for support here. Ha! Ha! My wife has that job daily with our little 10.5 month old boy and I can tell you, I would try to get fired from that job as quickly as I could if it was a Mr. Mom situation for me. I love the little guy but boy that is a hard job to do day in and day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubican View Post
    VOI will be in San Antonio Tx, with all track events at COTA with SRT suport.
    The only SRT support is that they built your car!!!!!

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    Folks can enjoy both events, but just remember where the finances go. If you are a die hard VOA member and want to make sure we prosper keep it in house. We should not discourage people to hang out with their Viper brothers and sisters. Tough choices have to be made to ensure our survival and get us back to one club.

    Long live the VOA

    Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlknBlu View Post
    Folks can enjoy both events, but just remember where the finances go. If you are a die hard VOA member and want to make sure we prosper keep it in house. We should not discourage people to hang out with their Viper brothers and sisters. Tough choices have to be made to ensure our survival and get us back to one club.

    Long live the VOA

    Bruce
    One Viper club. The faster this happens the better. Then we won't have our members getting constant emails and other propaganda from the VCA.

    There will be no peace in the Viper Nation (Viper Owners, Chrysler/SRT, Vendors and Sponsors) as long as there are two clubs.

    I'm sorry that may seem harsh, but it is a reality.


 
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