A little Gen V TA vs Gen IV ACR comparo

[Late Apex]

ACRGTR, great comparison and I agree with some of this as I sat in one at Daytona for awhile and noticed the interior seemed much more confining and the headroom was very tight compared to my 09 ACR, and that was without a helmet!

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

I really appreciate your comparo, and the fact that it 'inspired' so many other hands-on, real-world inputs. GREAT THREAD.

[Especially noted is the 'bigger than most' XL-2X comments from another 6'2 '+ 12-pack.]

DO add some rebound to the ACR...

[Policy Limits]

I wanna see a gen IV ACR v. Gen V ACR comparison

[FLATOUT]

I wanna see a gen IV ACR v. Gen V ACR comparison

I think we would all love to see that as well I'm sure once it comes out if the pricing isn't crazy I willbe trying to figure out a way to get one.

[ACRucrazy]

I think we would all love to see that as well I'm sure once it comes out if the pricing isn't crazy I willbe trying to figure out a way to get one.

That's what I am afraid of... I hope it kicks so much ass, but afraid it will do so I will be tempted to give up my IV ACR... which I don't want to do... and most likely won't be able to have both.. LOL

[gutterworks129]

Good write up Jeff, maybe we can do some auto-cross or go to VIR soon.

[apacheviper]

Hi,

Looks like you guys should be able to help me. I'm looking to swap out my stock gen3 for a stock gen5. I'm to believe the T56 transmission currently attached to the gen3 should be able to handle the extra bhp and torque when paired to the gen5, although a clutch upgrade may be useful.

Am I right in thinking the the engine mounts should all be the same?
And that the gen5 (from a 6 speed manual car - but unfortunately didn't come with the tr-6060 transmission) will pair to the T56 OK?

And any assistance in what other jobs I'll need to do would be much appreciated. Like - I believe the gen5 throttle is fly by wire - so I guess I'll need to get.
I only have the wiring loom and ECU from the gen3 - will the sensors and other connections just fit?
With the gen3 ECU start the engine? I can't damage the engine running the old ECU can I?

I'll leave it at that for now - any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

[ACRucrazy]

Hi,

Looks like you guys should be able to help me. I'm looking to swap out my stock gen3 for a stock gen5. I'm to believe the T56 transmission currently attached to the gen3 should be able to handle the extra bhp and torque when paired to the gen5, although a clutch upgrade may be useful.

Am I right in thinking the the engine mounts should all be the same?
And that the gen5 (from a 6 speed manual car - but unfortunately didn't come with the tr-6060 transmission) will pair to the T56 OK?

And any assistance in what other jobs I'll need to do would be much appreciated. Like - I believe the gen5 throttle is fly by wire - so I guess I'll need to get.
I only have the wiring loom and ECU from the gen3 - will the sensors and other connections just fit?
With the gen3 ECU start the engine? I can't damage the engine running the old ECU can I?

I'll leave it at that for now - any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

You would need to swap out the Gen IV PCM/engine harness/mounts/ radiator fans/ pedal assembly / dash harness etc. Not a cheap or easy option. The Gen 3 stuff will be no good with the IV/V engine.

Your best bet is to do a Gen IV head swap/Mopar Kit and keep the cable throttle body.

[serpent]

Wow, didnt realize this thread was bumped from 3 years ago. lol

What I'd like to see is IV ACR vs TA 2.0 and IV ACR vs V ACR.

I wish magazine would test the TA 2.0 and find out how much quicker it is around a track compared to the TA 1.0.

[donk_316]

Nothing is faster than a TA 1....

NOTHING

[ViperJon]

Wow, didnt realize this thread was bumped from 3 years ago. lol
What I'd like to see is IV ACR vs TA 2.0 and IV ACR vs V ACR.

The Laguna Seca times pretty much tell the story on these comparo's. 1:28 (Gen V ACR) to 1:33 (2014 TA or Gen IV ACR) is forever.....
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

[SilverACR]

The Laguna Seca times pretty much tell the story on these comparo's. 1:28 (Gen V ACR) to 1:33 (2014 TA or Gen IV ACR) is forever.....
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

Viperjon
Based on the year that had to be the TA 1.0 and not the 2.0 which has more aero and do you know if they ran the street ACR or the ACRX? I would assume they compare road cars so it should have been the ACR right? Just curious.

[ViperJon]

Viperjon
Based on the year that had to be the TA 1.0 and not the 2.0 which has more aero and do you know if they ran the street ACR or the ACRX? I would assume they compare road cars so it should have been the ACR right? Just curious.

Those times are the TA1 and a stock Gen IV ACR. (This is where the 1:33 edition Gen IV ACR moniker came from).
I've never seen any times for a TA2 vs TA1 anywhere probably due to so few TA2 sold comparatively.

[SilverACR]

Those times are the TA1 and a stock Gen IV ACR. (This is where the 1:33 edition Gen IV ACR moniker came from).
I've never seen any times for a TA2 vs TA1 anywhere probably due to so few TA2 sold comparatively.

Got it! I would think the TA2 would fall somewhere in between the 5ACR and the 5TA. It would be an interesting comparison if someone has it. Thanks

[dethred]

Here's a Gen 5 vs. GEN 4 ACR comparison in a straight line, however irrelevant it may be. Gen 4 has full header and exhaust,, tune, and intake. Gen 5 has headers and arrow pcm. :-)

https://youtu.be/94dqVdyHgJg

[SilverACR]

Here's a Gen 5 vs. GEN 4 ACR comparison in a straight line, however irrelevant it may be. Gen 4 has full header and exhaust,, tune, and intake. Gen 5 has headers and arrow pcm. :-)

https://youtu.be/94dqVdyHgJg

Irrelevant maybe... fun to watch absolutely! To cold to drive mine here in Iowa so this is all I got��LOL

[ViperSRT]

So is the bottom line a TA 2.0 is equal to or quicker than a Gen 4 ACR (obviously around a track)?