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  1. #1
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    How to refuel properly

    Hi all,
    I am wondering if it is common or only for me. Everytime I refuel, gas flows back. It feels like there is another stopper inside the hole and it blocks the line. After several times of attempts I can finish fueling in the end though.
    Anybody here who has same experience?
    Do I have to put the nozzle in the hole at an certain angle or put it as deeper as possible? Please somebody tell me the secret.

    Thanks!

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    Turn the nozzle 180, that solves the issue on mine. My Grand Cherokee, needs the same fix

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    We had the same problem on our owners viper.
    There are two things to check:
    First the vent/evap system can be plugged. With this setup usually you can put a little in and then it stops/backflows.

    Second if it immediately back flows and you can barely squeeze the nozzle without it spraying back/stopping then its usually the flap inside the fuel tank fill neck. There is a second flapper inside the fuel filler neck and it can brake and get logged at the bottom of the fuel neck. It basically stops almost all fuel flow into the tank.

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    So it’s common issue. Good to know that.
    Great tips! I will try it today.
    Thank you so much guys!

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    Try turning the fuel fill nozzle 45 degrees counter clockwise. That generally helps.

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    Mine has no issues with this, but I have had this happen when I didn’t insert the nozzle far enough to open the 2nd flap. Probably not your issue, but just a heads up. As said earlier, I’m guessing a blocked vent line.

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    I find that letting it get super low on gas prevents me from getting it to full, the same when i stop for fuel after getting on it.

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    Thank you all for useful tips! Thinking I need to check the vent line first:

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    The EVAP vent line runs from the driver's side firewall to the front of the engine. It passes on the engine side of the fuse box. It is a black plastic line about 1/2" in diameter. Cars with headers often melt the line. Even stock cars have been known to melt it. If it melts closed it is hard or near impossible to get fuel in the tank. If it melts open you won't have problems fueling it. I melted it on my 15 TA 2.0 with headers. It melted open. I cut it out and spliced a section of 1/2" gas line where the melting occurred. I ran the gas line on the outboard side of the fuse box to keep it away from exhaust heat.

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    Oh I am pretty sure that happend to me. I have Belanger complete system. Definitely I will check the line. Thank you for the great tip!

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    My Viper does it rarely. My SRT10 Ram does it every single fillup. Pukes fuel all over the place.

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    My Viper is the same way. Our evap pumps here in PA are a PITA! My trick is to insert just the tip, give it a little squeeze or two to get it going, then stick it in about halfway, and gently pump.

    Takes twice as long for the Viper as it does for the Ram, which I just stick it in and let 'er rip!

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    I dropped my Viper off at a workshop to see what is going on. Thanks for the all tips and experiences. That makes me feel easier!

    Peter, how are you? Interesting... your Ram pukes fuel also.

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    Viper Pete... saw in an older post that you have a ram QC swapped to a T56 manual. Could you hit me up as I have more than a couple questions and I do not want to screw up my beautiful silver 05 srt-10 with 53k miles.
    Will W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Turn the nozzle 180, that solves the issue on mine. My Grand Cherokee, needs the same fix
    I have had the same issue. Like Jack B if I turn the nozzle a complete 180 fills up every time with no issues.


 

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