DSE Carbon Fiber Belly Pan

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Gauging interest in a carbon fiber belly pan. Would save about 4-5 lbs. Target price is $1350. Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Doug

[BJG32]

Arizona Viper....in 3....2....1... :-)

[stradman]

I'm in.....

[kriskyk]

Will it be more dimensional and rigid than the stock piece? Will the duct be carbon as well?

What composite layup will be used? Core, solid, uni, twill etc...?

Would prefer to save a few $ and not have a finished twill layup since it's under the car....

[Pappy]

Is it possible to include NACA ducts for the vent holes instead of the bent down (into the underbody slip stream) lips that the aluminum piece uses?

Pappy

[Arizona Vipers]

Gauging interest in a carbon fiber belly pan. Would save about 4-5 lbs. Target price is $1350. Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Doug

Dude I was just going to ask you about this. I had my car on the lift yesterday trying to find ways to cut weight and that was the first thing I noticed. Yeah I will buy one for sure.

[Arizona Vipers]

Is it possible to include NACA ducts for the vent holes instead of the bent down (into the underbody slip stream) lips that the aluminum piece uses?

Pappy

I agree with this, those lips bent down have to disrupt flow at least somewhat....

[Bryan Savage]

Nah. Price vs. weight, at the lowest possible point of the car. I can't hang.

[Arizona Vipers]

Nah. Price vs. weight, at the lowest possible point of the car. I can't hang.

It's a steal. LOL. Porsche Weissach package is $18K to save 11 lbs. LOL.
That being said, something like this makes the most sense on a road race car in an unlimited class like mine.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Will it be more dimensional and rigid than the stock piece? Will the duct be carbon as well?

What composite layup will be used? Core, solid, uni, twill etc...?

Would prefer to save a few $ and not have a finished twill layup since it's under the car....

It will all be carbon and will be one piece vs riveted on ducts and it will flow more smoothly as there will be no fabrication bends / cuts like the aluminum one. It will be built for function and autoclave cured but with budget considerations without a cosmetic weave layer. Maybe it will come in cheaper than the estimate, not sure yet.

Is it possible to include NACA ducts for the vent holes instead of the bent down (into the underbody slip stream) lips that the aluminum piece uses?

Pappy

I hear you and would like to but won’t be taking the risk with a low volume part requiring a mold. It will be the same design as OEM with some improvements but the last thing I need is people removing them because the diff overheats or it upsets the aero or whatever.


Thanks
Doug

[SSGNRDZ_28]

The design work is underway. A few more adjustments and we will start on the mold.

Thanks
Doug

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[Arizona Vipers]

[Space Truckin]

^^^This^^^....

[1Koolasp 16ACR]

i'm In,,,,

[bluesrt]

Killer, very nice part at s good price

[ViperTony]

The design work is underway. A few more adjustments and we will start on the mold.

Thanks
Doug

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Doug, looking at the rear opening for the jack....wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some kind of bolt on jack point that protrudes just slightly through that opening....would make getting the jack in and out of there much quicker on track days. I was going to weld a piece of angle iron or similar.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Yes I can do that, probably a good idea anyway with a carbon fiber piece.

Thanks
Doug

Doug, looking at the rear opening for the jack....wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some kind of bolt on jack point that protrudes just slightly through that opening....would make getting the jack in and out of there much quicker on track days. I was going to weld a piece of angle iron or similar.

[sharmut]

Doug, a hockey puck fits perfectly in the opening.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Doug, a hockey puck fits perfectly in the opening.

That’s what I use but it’s difficult to get it aligned easily sometimes with the strakes on etc with the car on the ground during track days.

[Pappy]

Doug, looking at the rear opening for the jack....wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some kind of bolt on jack point that protrudes just slightly through that opening....would make getting the jack in and out of there much quicker on track days. I was going to weld a piece of angle iron or similar.

I have posted these before. I built a bolt in piece that spreads the load from the skinny crossmember up to the x-braces above it, and it has an angle iron piece sticking out below the hole in the pan. I can jack on the angle iron, it doesn't have much aero drag, and I use it as a tie down point with a s-hook.

Pappy

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[sharmut]

That’s what I use but it’s difficult to get it aligned easily sometimes with the strakes on etc with the car on the ground during track days.

I never had a problem, guess variations in ride height, etc.
If you come up with something that could do a better job distributing the load, I'm in, it's one less item to forget to take to the track.

[Arizona Vipers]

For the record you can jack the car up off the ground with just three jacks and not have to use the rear hole. When I got my tire warmers I wanted to do something like what Pappy had done so I'd only have to use three jacks, but found out you can use three jacks from the sides as well.


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[ViperTony]

I have posted these before. I built a bolt in piece that spreads the load from the skinny crossmember up to the x-braces above it, and it has an angle iron piece sticking out below the hole in the pan. I can jack on the angle iron, it doesn't have much aero drag, and I use it as a tie down point with a s-hook.

Pappy

Thanks Pappy, I knew I saw this before here somewhere!

[RedTanRT/10]

For the record you can jack the car up off the ground with just three jacks and not have to use the rear hole. When I got my tire warmers I wanted to do something like what Pappy had done so I'd only have to use three jacks, but found out you can use three jacks from the sides as well.

AZ you gotta be kidding me!! Get a real set up

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[housemouse]

For the record you can jack the car up off the ground with just three jacks and not have to use the rear hole. When I got my tire warmers I wanted to do something like what Pappy had done so I'd only have to use three jacks, but found out you can use three jacks from the sides as well.


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airjacks.....it will change your life. I never want another car without them haha.