DSE Carbon Fiber Belly Pan

[RedTanRT/10]

Gauging interest in a carbon fiber belly pan. Would save about 4-5 lbs. Target price is $1350. Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Doug

Doug, looks interesting!! I have full CF pan on my comp coupe. Car came from UK and never saw one before. I'll take some pics down the road and send them to you. be nice if you could build a spare and/or make them for some of the other CC guys. thanks!! Mike

[Arizona Vipers]

AZ you gotta be kidding me!! Get a real set up

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I'm tempted! The lightest I've found is still going to add about 22 lbs. If i continue using the warmers I probably will, I'm still in the testing phase.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Doug, looks interesting!! I have full CF pan on my comp coupe. Car came from UK and never saw one before. I'll take some pics down the road and send them to you. be nice if you could build a spare and/or make them for some of the other CC guys. thanks!! Mike

Thanks best bet might be to get one in hand but post some pictures.

For those interested the rear jack point will clamp to the frame. It will spread the load, allow easier jacking while protecting the pan a bit and will also serve to seal that hole for better aero. It will only protrude slightly below the belly pan.

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[ViperTony]

Thanks best bet might be to get one in hand but post some pictures.

For those interested the rear jack point will clamp to the frame. It will spread the load, allow easier jacking while protecting the pan a bit and will also serve to seal that hole for better aero. It will only protrude slightly below the belly pan.

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That was quick Doug! Put me in for one.

[kriskyk]

Has anyone actually done air Jack's on a gen v?

[Arizona Vipers]

Count me in for the jack puck thing Doug. Keep it light!

[gpbtt]

I want a Jack Puck!

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Count me in for the jack puck thing Doug. Keep it light!

That’s the plan as usual

[metal_militia]

Any update on the CF belly pan?

[SSGNRDZ_28]

More details coming soon.

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[Arizona Vipers]

[Arizona Vipers]

Has anyone actually done air Jack's on a gen v?

Not that I know of. I'm thinking it'll be a little trickier on ACR's. Are you looking into this? These are the lightest I've found- https://www.apracing.com/product_det...85_family.aspx
Not sure of the stroke that would be needed, but the longest ones weigh 3 lbs each. Plus all the lines/hardware etc, we are probably looking at close to 30 lbs

[RedTanRT/10]

AZ, I have Krontec's and according to this link they weight 2.1 lbs each (950 grams). Krontec has lite weight hoses and couplings too, I'd bet their system total weight is maybe 20lbs.

https://www.hrpworld.com/kro-ll-22-k...roke-supe.html

Lots' easier to swap wheels, work on brakes etc, then using multiple jacks and jack stands!!

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[kriskyk]

Any pics of the frame mounts for the air jack cylinders?

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Didn't expect the weave to align on all of the ACR E diffuser pieces....

Weight saved will be over 6 lbs and cost will be less than noted above. More information soon.

Thanks
Doug

[sharmut]

Doug, great looking piece.

[Pappy]

Very nice!!! How do you think the structural rigidity is compared to the aluminum piece - suspect it is at least as strong. It is hard to tell from the number and types of fasteners FCA used whether or not the belly pan contributes to structural rigidity of the undercarriage. They may have just used the big fasteners to keep the aero forces from sucking the pan off the bottom of the car.

Pappy

[13COBRA]

Doug will that fit a Gen IV?

Pappy, I believe the fasteners are to keep the belly pan on, not to give the car any structural support.

[SRT_BluByU]

Very nice!!! How do you think the structural rigidity is compared to the aluminum piece - suspect it is at least as strong. It is hard to tell from the number and types of fasteners FCA used whether or not the belly pan contributes to structural rigidity of the undercarriage. They may have just used the big fasteners to keep the aero forces from sucking the pan off the bottom of the car.

Pappy

I suspect it contributes... as an engineer why wouldnt you use that opportunity to add rigidity? Im pretty sure the Corvettes use the tunnel plate for added stiffness on C5 and newer cars.

[13COBRA]

I suspect it contributes... as an engineer why wouldnt you use that opportunity to add rigidity? Im pretty sure the Corvettes use the tunnel plate for added stiffness on C5 and newer cars.

I don't disagree, but I believe it was a biproduct of needing the fasteners to hold the pan on... instead of the fasteners be added for rigidity and also helped keep the pan on.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

This should fit 2003-2017 cars.

I don’t believe there’s any major structural rigidly purpose of the pan - the holes in the pan are 0.625” and the screws are only M8 (half that) - that’s not a very good way to keep things from moving around if that was the intention. There’s probably some minor improvement a marketing person could argue but it’s only a 0.062” piece of flexible aluminum.

Doug

[13COBRA]

This should fit 2003-2017 cars.

I don’t believe there’s any major structural rigidly purpose of the pan - the holes in the pan are 0.625” and the screws are only M8 (half that) - that’s not a very good way to keep things from moving around if that was the intention. There’s probably some minor improvement a marketing person could argue but it’s only a 0.062” piece of flexible aluminum.

Doug

Mmmmm. Definitely in for a price.

[1of1TA1.0]

The pan's are different on Gen V's, I know for certain that the rear diff duct is in a different place. I'm not sure if that would matter but wanted to point that out. Not sure if anything else changed. Also, on Gen III/IVs there is a weldment with threads that all the fasteners bolt to. So the pan doesn't sit flush like it does on Gen V's

[13COBRA]

The pan's are different on Gen V's, I know for certain that the rear diff duct is in a different place. I'm not sure if that would matter but wanted to point that out. Not sure if anything else changed. Also, on Gen III/IVs there is a weldment with threads that all the fasteners bolt to. So the pan doesn't sit flush like it does on Gen V's

Sad.

[Pappy]

This should fit 2003-2017 cars.

I don’t believe there’s any major structural rigidly purpose of the pan - the holes in the pan are 0.625” and the screws are only M8 (half that) - that’s not a very good way to keep things from moving around if that was the intention. There’s probably some minor improvement a marketing person could argue but it’s only a 0.062” piece of flexible aluminum.

Doug

Good points. Thanks

Pappy