Remove the stripes. It will be worth more unmolested.
2014 Orange TA will be a huge collector
Thanks for the input Donk.
I will leave that up to the next owner to decide. I could be a million miles off on my assumption here but I feel like the folks that would really want that perfect, prestine, “unmolested”, 2014 TA to stash away as a collectible, they will likely not be buying ones with 10k miles. Those kind of collectors probably want “wrapper quality” kinda sub 500 miles and based on the recent TA of that sort that sold for over 140k, the budget is in a different realm as well. Kinda apples to oranges here.
Just my opinion Ofcourse, but I think the majority of the folks that have reached out to me intend to drive and enjoy the hell outta this car and frankly, that makes me way happier about selling than if I knew it was gunna get hidden away from the world.
Great looking TA! I really like the unique stripe and think on the hood only is perfect. Had it gone on roof it would have needed to carry over on the hatch and bumper and maybe been too much. I think many would agree that mods like this done by Prefix would not necessarily hurt value at all, and be very desirable to many. Had SRT offered it there'd have been a lot I'm sure. GLWS if that's what you decide!
i just sold a car, now have room and/was considering searching for a TA but the market might be pricing me out of one.
i tried contacting the seller of the white car in the clasdifieds but never got a response.
to the OP, good luck with your sale
Update: picked up a nail on the way to coffee and cars so just ordered a new set of Toyo R888Rs that will get put on next week. Car will come with brand new rubber all the way around.
I'm looking for one too. Don't sweat the outrageous ask prices...all of the cars with unrealistic pricing are just sitting. I've been keeping my eye out over the past year and see the same stale inventory. I guess they want museum pieces and they're not really interested in selling. Just missed out on a 5000 mile 2016 Yorange 2.0 for $85,000 at auction. The car was MINT. Some guy slipped in last minute and nabbed it. To me, auction prices are more of what people are willing to pay. Hang in there...be patient like myself and you'll find what you're looking for. Add 5% auction fee to the below prices.
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Last edited by Gen5snake; 02-11-2019 at 09:05 AM.
Everyone is welcome to their opinion... but using values from a 2014 GTS, a 2016 TA group (not the limited run cars) and a 4th gen ACR, to justify value on a 2014 TA 1.0 is silly...
Wish y’all the best in your search though! If it helps (or maybe hurts because you seem to wanna steal a car) I’ve had 2 offers within 5k of my asking price in a week.
And Please froward me the “stale” TA inventory you have seen sitting for a year... because everyone I’ve seen list has sold within a month.
Gen 5 Snake,
I agree to a point with SirHiss , because as far as I am concerned, a normal Auctioned Viper is quite often questionable. We employed a practice over 20 years of never buying an Auction Viper since we saw a ton in our shop and virtually every one had some issues. I never felt Auctions were a basis for quality Viper values, and if the 16 TA 2.0 was truly mint , it would never have made it to an Auction - imho.
This is right on.
And, I agree with Bill P. that there is almost always a reasonable explanation for lowball Viper prices that we see from time to time. I think it's that way with any of the more desirable, limited volume makes. Fair value on the better cars is rising (i.e. well maintained TA1's). It rises slowly of course, but it still seems to be rising overall. Plus, we're seeing more and more folks show up on this board expressing interest in locating cars, asking questions, etc. Thus, the timing would seem to be now to grab something you like (at todays' pricing), and not tomorrow.
Last edited by Scott_in_fl; 02-11-2019 at 10:45 AM.
Spoken like a true buyer, talking their position.
It may not be so outrageous when you're on the sell side.
The lucky buyer who's been looking for this car won't be thinking about the price when they're ripping laps at the local track or cruising in one of the greatest cars of all time!
The TA packages aren't for everyone.. The buyers who are serious about getting into a '14 TA will offer a reasonable price and see the OP isn't out of the ballpark. I had plenty of people try to offer me $70s for mine when I entertained selling it, they know what it's worth, but by staying in touch with some and seeing their habits over the past ~2 years since then - it's apparent they were looking for a steal to flip for their own profits instead of being actual interested parties.
GLWS, hope you find a buyer who will drive it!
What is interesting is that if you try to find out the value of your Gen V ( I have tried out of curiosity for my 17') there are no values available. I have used KBB and a few other sites, and there is no information available.
Don't get defensive. It's not an opinion. Look on autotrader, cargurus..etc. Most of the inventory on there has been sitting for at least 6 mos. I see what these dealers are paying for these things. Don't think for a second that all of these cars for sale are a result of some old guy trading in his viper for a durango. The majority of the current available market are auction bought. If I look at the Manheim reports, by VIN, I see these guys marking SRT & GTS's up 15-20k. That's nuts. The inventory is stale...
Report back to us when you sell your car for the kind of cash you're looking for. You're north of 10,000 miles...it's no longer a collectors dream. You have an aftermarket stripe on there...and it looks like you have a chip on the hood...hopefully a reflection. I'm not being a jerk, just a reality check. You said you don't have to sell, so no worries.
Minus stripe....minus 9k miles and you may have seen it break 90k on a private sale with that mileage. Dealers offer financing and they still can't sell most of these...unless it's a knockout combo. Knockout combos are selling before they hit the car sites. It was just two years ago dealers couldn't give these away. Unfortunately, I wasn't in a position to buy one then. I personally love them...not the most comfortable at my height, but still is a fantastic drivers car. Bottom line - It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it and I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
Try NADA...you will want to vomit. And....that's a national average of sales data collected from dealers recent sales. Goes to my point that the majority of inventory is stale thus NADA's pricing is not reflecting sales since the recent "they're not making them anymore" price increase hysteria. You have to have real sales data to end up in their valuation data. Go to a bank and try to secure a loan for more than NADA...it's not happening. Here's an excerpt from NADA's website
How does NADAguides value a vehicle?
When we attempt to value a used vehicle we use a number of data points. These data points include, but are not limited to, actual wholesale transactions (around 80% of the market with our relationship with NAAA) and retail transactions (through our relationship with J.D. Power and their PIN data which is obtained their actual Dealer Management Systems), as well as asking price information from www.autotrader.com. In addition, we have data from various OEMs and wholesalers and retailers of used vehicles that provide us the amounts for which they paid and sold their vehicles. We also take into consideration MSRP, invoice, equipment assumptions, as well as supply and demand and other macro- and micro-economic factors and the competitive landscape of vehicles. Our retail value is what a person could reasonably pay for a vehicle at a dealer’s lot. Our values are designed and intended to assist users in performing their own valuation of a particular used vehicle. The process by which users of NADAguides determine valuation is inherently subjective. Individual vehicles may have an actual value that is higher or lower than the estimated values created by us. NADA has been around for over 80 years and is the premier valuation guide in the used vehicle industry. Customers include, but are not limited to: dealers, wholesalers, rental car companies, insurance companies, lending institutions, OEMs, government agencies, as well as individual consumers. We attempt to create the most accurate, market-reflective, unbiased vehicle values and we believe we do so each and every time one of our products is presented to the outside world.
Last edited by Gen5snake; 02-11-2019 at 01:20 PM.
Stale listings don't just mean there are no buyers at that price. They also mean that there is no seller at a lower price. Some folks threw ads out there at $200k and just let them run forever. They figure that, if it sells, then great. If not, then who cares?
In this market, I don't think you're going to see too many of the desirable cars in the hands of people that cannot afford to keep them. These are not base Corvettes used as daily drivers.
These auction prices actually justify SirHiss asking price. 2016 TA 2.0 sold for $89,250 at an auction in a few days and a limited run 2014 TA is worth more. To me an auction is a quick sale price. If a Viper sells quicker than 3-6 months it was probably priced to low. These cars take a while to sell if they are priced right since there is a small pool of buyers.
Wow... for someone who starts off there post with “don’t get defensive” you jumped on a hell of a soap box there chief...
Let me quickly and briefly explain why 99% of what your saying is completely pointless and irrelevant...
Nothing your mentioning applies to 2014 Orange TA 1.0 vipers... apples to oranges... again, please show me a single one that has been listed for any amount of time... I’ll wait... PS ignorant claims of damage that doesn’t exist on a car is just poor form.. in sorry nobody jumped on your bandwagon to justify your silliness but there isn’t reason to try to devalue a car that you know nothing about...
Side note since you seem to feel you are the local professional.... I urge you to speak to Bernie from viper exchange or perhaps Sean O Grady, or Bill Pemberton (who has already chimed in here) who all have sold more vipers than you have ever even looked at I’m sure... I’m sure 99% of the population would value their professional and experienced opinions more...
Huh? You're car is over 10K miles.... The proof is in the pudding....balls in your court. Sell it and stop screwing around on a forum. Keep dropping names...Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care. Viper exchange told me about your car...and they said it had 10k miles and stripes. I said no thanks and chuckled...they thought the stripes were silly too. Stop getting defensive. Actions speak louder than words. SELL IT. You need to sell it to buy that other car that tickled your fancy.
This car reminds me of the Gen I's that were painted with weird things. This was done tastefully but is going to turn off anyone looking for an unmolsted example. Especially with the 10k miles, This car is for someone who wants a T/A that wants to drive it. As it gets older the mileage will be more appeal-able as even the "Good Examples" begin to climb in mileage. Maybe this one will a future conversation striker like the dolphin viper. It'll roll across the auction floor and we'll all remember the shitfest this thread was.
I will say on the NADA point that it is accurate in that it makes obtaining loans for vipers difficult. Part of that difficulty, especially with '14 TA, is that it just isn't accurate. . .in addition to there being no recent dealers sales for it to really establish trends off of; it only looks at the basic model & trim. It doesn't account for packages, or add ons, etc. In NADA's eyes, a limited run TA is equivalent to a base, no features SRT. Good luck getting anyone in the community to agree with that standpoint. Even insurance companies don't agree with NADA's valuations, as evidenced by those who have been unlucky enough to find themselves in total loss claims.
Gen5snake: Clearly this example isn't for you.
SirHiss: you know what you've got, and know what you want.
Let's end the bs and move on.
Last edited by dirtyboot; 02-11-2019 at 03:00 PM. Reason: kill the bs bidding war over the car.
Personally, I like the stripes at a glance. Maybe if I saw them in person I'd retract that statement or grow tired of them. I think my favorite thing about the TA is that the people buying them are actually driving them for the most part. The reason their value has held despite increasing mileage is because they perform well and have established a reputation for that both on street and track. Over the past two years, the majority of the TAs I've seen sell are in the 8-14k mile range, and they've commanded every penny asked for in this example. To that end, I don't believe the stripes will affect the value much one direction or the other as they don't affect the primary reasons people have been buying the TA.
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