Viper resales

[aspman]

Curious if any of these 140k$ plus vipers I see out there are actually pulling that money on sales?

[99RT10]

They should be selling for $200K......

[ViperTony]

They should be selling for $200K......

Referenced.

[catwood]

Seriously I turned down $135K on mine just today from a guy that approached me.

[aspman]

nice
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[Stealth78]

There are two beautiful examples in that price range +/- $5K in the classified that apparently aren't flying off the shelves. That one in Lamborghini Balloon White is sexy as all Hell! Why has that car not sold within a reasonable price of what he's asking???

[Scott_in_fl]

There are two beautiful examples in that price range +/- $5K in the classified that apparently aren't flying off the shelves. That one in Lamborghini Balloon White is sexy as all Hell! Why has that car not sold within a reasonable price of what he's asking???

I think that is very typical. Most cars in this price range will take a good bit of time to sell. I've been keeping an eye on some Mac 650S and GT3 RS cars, and they tend to sit for a long time before they sell. Go poke around cargurus.com and you'll see the length of time that cars have been sitting.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that most sellers in this price range do not need to give the cars away. They will hold out for their price, and time is on their side. Prices of new cars move higher each year, with inflation and increased demand for desirable models. So, sellers can just wait it out it seems.

[aspman]

what does referenced mean?

[99RT10]

what does referenced mean?

It means he is going to use it against me when I try to buy his really really cheap.

[Fourtrax250r]

I wonder if viper prices will plummet when everyone jumps on the C8 mid engine band wagon later this year.

[ForTehNguyen]

if a ZR1 was 130k imagine how much a Zora is going to cost

[serpent]

I wonder if viper prices will plummet when everyone jumps on the C8 mid engine band wagon later this year.

No, because its a base corvette. Not a z06 and not a ZR1. If GM can print the corvette thousands per hour they would. Thats why there are so many z06 cars out there that retailed for over 100k and now selling for 60s in less than 4 years, they made too many.
Dodge made around 3700 Gen V Vipers, I bet at least +250 have been totaled/lemon'd.

[OneofOneViper]

There are two beautiful examples in that price range +/- $5K in the classified that apparently aren't flying off the shelves. That one in Lamborghini Balloon White is sexy as all Hell! Why has that car not sold within a reasonable price of what he's asking???

For reference, you are correct that no one has given me an offer I'm willing to accept. I'm pretty firm on price, don't need to sell and think the car is worth way more anyways. I just don't like cars sitting around. I have had a total of 5 offers (including 2 dealers) willing to buy the car right at $135k or more, but I've turned them all down. I've also had a few dozen offers below 135k. Everyone buying right now is looking for a deal. If they want an incredible deal, they can go get one that isn't in as good of condition. 2016 models, more miles, not custom, stories... those are the only ones that those buyers will end up with. I have been watching the 2017's for sale in the last couple months, and of the 3 listed at 140k or lower, they have all sold almost in a matter of a couple weeks. I know that one sold for `138k and a non-custom sold for 137k. I also know that someone is buying the competition blue 2017 at Viper Exchange which is listed at 149k, but not sure what they are paying.

Anyways, hope that gives you some insight. I did take my nephew out in it around the block the other day, but he was more interested in my Mclaren--he's 10 and still learning.

[Mark1107]

A local ACR seller I was going to buy from jacked the price up 10k he quoted me on the phone 1 hour later in person to 50 grand over msrp, and I walked away when I realized the value wasn’t there, same with another texas GTSR. I’m glad I waited, GTSRs can be bought around msrp, and since I drive my Stryker green once a month owning a business and a 2 yr old daughter and a new house purchased, my priorities have realigned to other goals.

[ViperJon]

A local ACR seller I was going to buy from jacked the price up 10k he quoted me on the phone 1 hour later in person to 50 grand over msrp, and I walked away when I realized the value wasn’t there, same with another texas GTSR. I’m glad I waited, GTSRs can be bought around msrp, and since I drive my Stryker green once a month owning a business and a 2 yr old daughter and a new house purchased, my priorities have realigned to other goals.

Death, taxes and Mark 1107 deriding special edition resale values. Three things that are certain in life. And always the SAME story about how he almost bought one at some inflated price but didn’t. Literally the tenth time now as if anyone cares why he doesn’t own one. But.....another year goes by and still driving that same green thing that has easily lost 25% of its value while SE owners are still holding value nicely. And he still doesn’t own one. Congrats on the “realignment” lol.

[commandomatt]

Msrp is the best most 17’s will get.

Considering the cars are 2 years old now, and that you can still get MSRP, is pretty outstanding. Show me other cars in this category that will hold like that. At this time you can still find them as you point out but give it a few years and I am sure that availability will change quite a bit. Many did buy on speculation and didn't get that instant return they wanted. Once the cars end up in the hands of enthusiasts, there wont be as many for sale. Especially since there are no new ones to trade up to. I think this trend will be across the board for all generations

[ACRSNK]

Msrp is the best most 17’s will get. Even special editions. I have the receipts. Most 17’s are overpriced but auction results and stale ads are the viper way. I could call out like 5-10 2017 owners that thought 200k would happen, but the gen v market has readjusted itself. Not bottomed out but all of the special editions marked over msrp are stale ads at 3 to 9 months old and still for sale. I saw a 17 voodoo 2 go for 150 last month, 3 GTSRs go for below msrp, and russian flag and snakeskin green sit stale for almost a year. ( Along with 8 or 9 GTSR ‘s on the market now with no bites! 2 in SoCal, 1 in Ohio, 1 in Arkansas, 2-3 at Viper Exchange, and 1-2 in Chicago.)

What’s interesting are Orange TAs and Stryker Greens and Stryker reds are going for 95k to 115k which is below msrp but above regular srts and GTS’s. (I paid 90k for my Stryker green brand new with an msrp of 142,000.) I paid 120k for my tricolor 16 ACR and sold it for 125k.

Ymmv good luck. I bet lots of stale ad owners are willing to take less with a potential slowdown in the economy coming in 19 with the idiot politicians leading the charge.

What was the sticker on the Voo Doo that sold for $150K? What are the numbers on the 3 GTS-R's that went for under MSRP as I am not aware of that happening and I follow these cars pretty closely. You still seem to have a hard on for the ACR, whether it be an SE model, or regular model. In 5 years from now you will be posting again stating that you saw more sold at under MSRP and that you could have had one for well below MSRP and guess what...you still won't have one and still....no one will care. Not sure why you even post on here as no one really cares what you have to say. You have literally become a troll on this site.

[ViperGeorge]

I never get these "How much is a Viper Worth" threads. Last year an ACR/TA sold for $231,000++ at BJ in Scotsdale. They had an MSRP of around $125,000. There is another for sale this year at BJ. Personally I say "So What?" Ok, it is interesting to see what people will spend for one of the ten ACR/TAs, I guess it is fun to watch. However, I drive mine that's what I bought it for and I have no plans to sell it. In fact I have over 16,000 miles on it and by the end of May I'll have over 20,000.

Didn't most of you buy a Viper because you wanted to drive it? If you bought it as an investment, well good luck with that. Very few cars appreciate a lot over the years. Maybe in 20 years Vipers will bring huge dollars like Ford GTs or Hemi Cudas but for now I say just drive them, you can't predict the future. Besides if the democrats ever have their way there won't be any gas available in 20 years as all cars will be solar or wind powered (See the Green New Deal that the crazy Alexandria Ocasio-Cortes from NY is pushing). Or they will simply tax you so much that you couldn't afford the gas for the Viper.

End of rant, we now resume our regularly scheduled programming.

[ViperGarageElite]

I never get these "How much is a Viper Worth" threads. Last year an ACR/TA sold for $231,000++ at BJ in Scotsdale. They had an MSRP of around $125,000. There is another for sale this year at BJ. Personally I say "So What?" Ok, it is interesting to see what people will spend for one of the ten ACR/TAs, I guess it is fun to watch. However, I drive mine that's what I bought it for and I have no plans to sell it. In fact I have over 16,000 miles on it and by the end of May I'll have over 20,000.

Didn't most of you buy a Viper because you wanted to drive it? If you bought it as an investment, well good luck with that. Very few cars appreciate a lot over the years. Maybe in 20 years Vipers will bring huge dollars like Ford GTs or Hemi Cudas but for now I say just drive them, you can't predict the future. Besides if the democrats ever have their way there won't be any gas available in 20 years as all cars will be solar or wind powered (See the Green New Deal that the crazy Alexandria Ocasio-Cortes from NY is pushing). Or they will simply tax you so much that you couldn't afford the gas for the Viper.

End of rant, we now resume our regularly scheduled programming.

Finally someone who speaks with some truth.Thank you for some common sense thread posting these are some weird times this country could face. I'm with you on this thanks

[Mark1107]

It's hilarious how upset everyone gets when you speak the truth. Everyone responding to me can't use facts so they resort to insults. Isn't that a sign of losing an argument? Lol. Carry on. I love the forums and I'm not going anywhere!

[Scott_in_fl]

Considering the cars are 2 years old now, and that you can still get MSRP, is pretty outstanding. Show me other cars in this category that will hold like that. At this time you can still find them as you point out but give it a few years and I am sure that availability will change quite a bit. Many did buy on speculation and didn't get that instant return they wanted. Once the cars end up in the hands of enthusiasts, there wont be as many for sale. Especially since there are no new ones to trade up to. I think this trend will be across the board for all generations

Winner. As with most things in life, it's all about timing. During any given month, on any given year, average selling prices will fluctuate. Are average prices a shade lower this month (at the height of winter) than they were 6 months ago? Perhaps. Does it say anything about average prices 6 months from now, or 6 years from now? Of course not. If anyone thinks otherwise, then they clearly do not own any investments.

That said, prices are going up over the mid to longer term. We've talked about the reasons for this ad nauseam (increasing size of global market wants a piece of Americana, increased wealth among elites, increased shift to collectible cars as store of value, limited production volume, end of naturally aspirated V10 and manual shift cars, end of fossil fuel burners, noteworthy hisstory, lap records, etc., etc., etc.).

Notable American cars from the '60's and '70's in original condition and in mint shape are already in the stratosphere. '80's and '90's cars are moving now -- go look for a clean '92 or a '96 b/w and you'll see that you'll be paying more this year than a few years ago. Scoop one while you still can. '00's and '10's will be next. The more limited the production and the more rare the build, the quicker and greater the rise in market prices. That's actual history that you can verify right now -- not some wild speculation.

[ACRSNK]

It's hilarious how upset everyone gets when you speak the truth. Everyone responding to me can't use facts so they resort to insults. Isn't that a sign of losing an argument? Lol. Carry on. I love the forums and I'm not going anywhere!

Since you are sticking around, why not post the ACTUAL info on the cars you refer to in your previous post. Without specific details, isn't your post just completely useless?

[Scott_in_fl]

It's hilarious how upset everyone gets when you speak the truth. Everyone responding to me can't use facts so they resort to insults. Isn't that a sign of losing an argument? Lol. Carry on. I love the forums and I'm not going anywhere!

Mark, if you're so certain of your position, perhaps you're interested in selling me a 10-year call option on SE's with an MSRP strike?

The deal, if I elect to exercise the option anytime before Jan 2029, would require you to source an SE car with less than 10k mi. (in condition befitting of the mileage) and sell it to me at the 2017 window MSRP. For that, I'm willing to put $5k in your pocket today. Sound good?

[ViperJon]

It's simply beyond me why anyone (and a Viper owner no less) would take such unbridled joy and happiness posting about what he perceives as the falling values of ACR-E's. It actually gives him some sort of perverse pleasure in stating and restating for the tenth time how he "almost" bought one but didn't. Not sure if he thinks this makes him look like a savvy buyer with his shrewd decision, but the simple fact is he doesn't and will never own one. And no one here cares....we are enjoying our cars and if they go up or down so be it. What happens when you're just a bottom feeder is the price can never be low enough. And you just become a forum troll.

[Bruce H.]

If anyone reading this had any thought what-so-ever of buying a Viper and squirreling it away as an investment for 20-50 years I'm sure this would discourage them from doing so.

Winner. As with most things in life, it's all about timing. During any given month, on any given year, average selling prices will fluctuate. Are average prices a shade lower this month (at the height of winter) than they were 6 months ago? Perhaps. Does it say anything about average prices 6 months from now, or 6 years from now? Of course not. If anyone thinks otherwise, then they clearly do not own any investments.

That said, prices are going up over the mid to longer term. We've talked about the reasons for this ad nauseam (increasing size of global market wants a piece of Americana, increased wealth among elites, increased shift to collectible cars as store of value, limited production volume, end of naturally aspirated V10 and manual shift cars, end of fossil fuel burners, noteworthy hisstory, lap records, etc., etc., etc.).

Notable American cars from the '60's and '70's in original condition and in mint shape are already in the stratosphere. '80's and '90's cars are moving now -- go look for a clean '92 or a '96 b/w and you'll see that you'll be paying more this year than a few years ago. Scoop one while you still can. '00's and '10's will be next. The more limited the production and the more rare the build, the quicker and greater the rise in market prices. That's actual history that you can verify right now -- not some wild speculation.

Yes, YES, YES!!! Drive and enjoy them like it might be your last chance to and don't bank on glacial changes in global markets, and shifts in this and end of that. And when you're no longer enjoying it please sell to someone who will enjoy and cherish it like you did!

we are enjoying our cars and if they go up or down so be it.