T-56 fluid pump

[Nixon's SRT]

Who is running a pump on their T-56 for the fluid to keep it at the front gear set? What pump are you running? are you running a cooler? Looking for information that is out there.

I know some are running one, just couldn't find much info out there.

[ICPREY]

Search the Viper Garage website, I'm pretty sure there are a few write ups there.

[Nixon's SRT]

Thanks, just read through them.

[Steve M]

I'd check with RPM transmissions (in Indiana)...I'm sure they'd have some good recommendations.

[TooBlue]

I use a Tilton trans. pump set up on my G-Force 6 speed transmission on my TT. Works Great...
I had G-force tap the trans. to position the pump to spray and keep 5th and 6th gear lubricated.
The pump is boost activated.

There is a lot of gravitational "pull" that sends the fluid to the rear of the transmission due to the power of winding out a TT or similar high hp car. This causes the gears to run dry on runway type speed runs...

Dry gears + 1000 H.P. = Broken Trans.
(Unfortunately I learned this the hard way....)

If you call G-Force they will know exactly how to fix the problem.

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

I use a Tilton trans. pump set up on my G-Force 6 speed transmission on my TT. Works Great...
I had G-force tap the trans. to position the pump to spray and keep 5th and 6th gear lubricated.
The pump is boost activated.

There is a lot of gravitational "pull" that sends the fluid to the rear of the transmission due to the power of winding out a TT or similar high hp car. This causes the gears to run dry on runway type speed runs...

Dry gears + 1000 H.P. = Broken Trans.
(Unfortunately I learned this the hard way....)

If you call G-Force they will know exactly how to fix the problem.

Mike great post, but I'm a little confused with you math? Lets try it again..

Dry gears + 1000 H.P. + Broken Trans = $5500
(Unfortunately I learned this the hard way....)

Does this sound about right now?

Toddy

[Nixon's SRT]

Thanks for the info everyone. I have this on my to get done list.

I better get it done Mike, so you dont have any gear pieces flying out from under my car and hitting you when you are behind me on the runway in June!......

[TooBlue]

Mike great post, but I'm a little confused with you math? Lets try it again..

Dry gears + 1000 H.P. + Broken Trans = $5500
(Unfortunately I learned this the hard way....)

Does this sound about right now?

Toddy

Hey Toddy
Unfortunately your math is more accurate.
(Not to mention the down time plus the fun and expense to swap out)

Thanks for the info everyone. I have this on my to get done list.

I better get it done Mike, so you dont have any gear pieces flying out from under my car and hitting you when you are behind me on the runway in June!......

We shall see.....


If nothing else you might try to get the lower 5th and 6th gear. The ratio gap between 4th and 5th
will really hurt your mph on runway type events...

[slitherv10]

Thanks for the info everyone. I have this on my to get done list.

I better get it done Mike, so you dont have any gear pieces flying out from under my car and hitting you when you are behind me on the runway in June!......

TooBlue:

We shall see.....


If nothing else you might try to get the lower 5th and 6th gear. The ratio gap between 4th and 5th
will really hurt your mph on runway type events...[/QUOTE]

[Nixon's SRT]

note to self...bring all left over sandbags

Haha. Mikes car is so much more awesome than mine. Mike is one of the reasons I signed up for this event. He is a die hard viper guy that drives the hell out of his cars. If I learn a few more things from him that weekend, make a few passes in my car, I'll call it a successful weekend.

As far as the transmission, I'm watching Jimmy's paddle shifted setup and see how well he likes it and that maybe next

[Nixon's SRT]

Tilton Transmission and/or Differential Oil Cooler Pumps 40-524, going to place my order this weekend.

Anyone using an particular fitting at the transmission that sprays the gears, or just a regular fitting?

[steve911]

I worked with SnakeOyl for my diff cooler and trans cooler. The transcooler has its own pump and the cooler is cooled by the air moving under the car.

The diff cooler is self contained with its own pump, cooler and twin fans. Both are thermostatically controlled. 10 mins on the track and both pumps are already humming along.

It is patterned off of the comp coupe and ACR-X sytems.

I have lots of pics. I paste some up here in the next day or two...

[Nixon's SRT]

I worked with SnakeOyl for my diff cooler and trans cooler. The transcooler has its own pump and the cooler is cooled by the air moving under the car.

The diff cooler is self contained with its own pump, cooler and twin fans. Both are thermostatically controlled. 10 mins on the track and both pumps are already humming along.

It is patterned off of the comp coupe and ACR-X sytems.

I have lots of pics. I paste some up here in the next day or two...

Steve you have those pictures? Im getting ready to start this install would like to see how you mounted and routed everything.

[steve911]

Steve you have those pictures? Im getting ready to start this install would like to see how you mounted and routed everything.

Ill get at it tonite... I got sidetracked and forgot all about it...

[steve911]

These pics are just a small sample to get the idea of my trans and diff coolers. This is not a cheap project by any stretch of the imagination. The 2 coolers, 2 pumps, wiring harness, filters (a must), hoses, fittings etc will run almost $1000.00 wholesale pricing, and you haven't even built it yet.

The system is thermostatically controlled, only coming on when its needed. My system is a cross between the ACR-X and the Comp Coupe systems. Their wiring harness was terrible in my opinion and I upgraded it to modern components that are readily available.

I am contemplating making a kit to be sold but I really don't know what the level of interest is at this point. The kit would involve some level of mechanical ability in order to install it. The wiring harness would be prebuilt and would only need to have final connections to the battery made and the user would need to determine where the master arm switch would go. Pics 1 & 2 show the trans cooler and pump. The trans cooler relies on air coming into the tunnel area from the reverse air scoop in the belly pan. Pic 3 shows the bottom of the diff where the thermostat and the pump intake hose attach.

Pics 4, 5, 6 show the Diff cooler pump mounting location, and two views of the diff cooler, shroud and cooling fans. The fan and cooler assy. gets mounted to an aluminum plate and is bolted to the bottom of the trunk floor behind the X brace where the pump is.

This should give you a good flavor of what I built.


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[steve911]

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Here is the 6th picture I talked about in my post above. the system only allows 5 pics per message.

[Nixon's SRT]

Thanks for the pictures. I hope to get to the transmission next weekend and install the pump